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  • Shooting a deer on posted property ny

 
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    11-27-2010, 02:26 PM
  #61
Trained
I have no problem with requiring a hunter safety course before buying a hunting liscense because hunting is not a right. It is a priviledge like owning a car. Our founding fathers saw the need to protect the people from the government and they did thier best to set up a series of checks and balances to make sure that the government was answering to the people instead of the reverse. They new that the system was not perfect and that men being what they are it would be corrupted so they wrote the first amendment and then in case that failed they wrote the second. Don't think for a second that the men that had only ten years earlier finished a civil war with a oppressive and overly powerful centralized government meant the first and second amendments to be the catalist for revolution should there come a need for it.
     
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    11-27-2010, 02:34 PM
  #62
Yearling
Kevin, you are correct. I am hoping that my post RE self protection and so forth didn't lead you to your comment about the founding fathers and another revolution. They definitely wanted a peaceful nation so that they could get back to their farming and other enterprises!
     
    11-27-2010, 02:40 PM
  #63
Trained
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Originally Posted by Ladytrails    
Kevin, you are correct. I am hoping that my post RE self protection and so forth didn't lead you to your comment about the founding fathers and another revolution. They definitely wanted a peaceful nation so that they could get back to their farming and other enterprises!
I actually was trying to agree with you but I missed a word in my post. The first and second amendment WERE meant to be a catylist for revolution (peaceful or otherwise).
     
    11-27-2010, 02:59 PM
  #64
Yearling
Kevin, thanks for clarifying. Those pesky little words...they do make a difference! I think our founding fathers made the point that apathy about our country's future is not an option, a lesson that is still very relevant today. I'm not saying I agree with his politics but I do agree with this quote from Mitt Romney, Sept 17, 2010: "We have serious enemies and growing threats around the world. Unfortunately, we have an administration whose idea of a rogue state is Arizona."
     
    11-28-2010, 12:48 PM
  #65
Banned
Anyone who rides off of their own property, on either government or privately owned land, needs to educate themselves about the hunting seasons and regulations in their state and locality AND develop a decent working relationship with the hunters.

For instance, in Virginia, not only is it legal for a hunter to come onto your property to retrieve his kill; it is legal for him to come onto your property to retrieve his dogs during seasons and in areas where it's legal to hunt with dogs. Most will, as stated earlier in this thread, ask permission if possible, but it is their right to come on your property to retrieve their game OR their dogs.

My point is that whatever your views on hunters, hunting and consumption of meat, you have a *BIG* common interest with hunters, like it or not - preservation of the rural countryside and the continued good will of public and private land owners. Horsepeople copping an attitude about hunters and hunting is short-sighted and cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Most hunters in my area pay fees to lease hunting rights on private property and do maintenence and upkeep on the property that they hunt. Most horsepeople do neither. If the landowner has to choose one or the other; which one do you think they'll choose?

Learning the hunting seasons, regulations and respecting the hunter's sport and rights are the first steps in coexisting peacefully with hunters and sharing the land.
     
    11-28-2010, 10:26 PM
  #66
Yearling
Being me I would of just went over there on my horse tell the man (if he did indeed kill the deer) he can come get it and I would not phone AC. Sometimes in the country little things just slip threw the cracks and we never speak of it again.
     
    11-29-2010, 09:16 AM
  #67
Foal
Wow the OP posted what she did, which in her mind at that time was the right thing and others come in and blast her for what she did. I agree that wasted meat is a bad thing but if you did what you thought best at that time then that is that. I have had lots of issues with hunters trespassing on my property, crossing to get to other areas, hunting, and other numerous violations. I tried the nice way the 1st two times but then you realize they don't own the property they hunt on and don't care about you and your property so I don't even think twice when I catch them. I call the DNR (Department of Natural Resources) and let them handle it. Though some hunters have lots of experience, they are not real smart when it comes to dealing with landowners and when they are out there with guns, I don't really trust them. Yes I am a deer hunter and a gun owner, so don't go there with me.
The OP did what she felt was best for her, maybe those of you that are trying to get her to do it"your way" should load up and go ride with her everytime she rides so that you can make those decisions for her and then she would please you. It is her RIGHT to do what she thinks is right. We all deal with situations differently, so your opinion on what she SHOULD have done is just that, your opinion!!!!
     
    11-29-2010, 10:45 AM
  #68
Trained
Rum - This is an open forum. The op is going to get good/bad/ugly opinions. Every subject is going to get that. And you're right on the point it is the poster's opinions. They obviously felt strongly enough to post about and they shouldn't be blasted for it either. There were enough little changes in the op's story to make me question what went on as well. Everyone handles things differently, and once again it comes to people giving their opinions on what they would do. I didn't see anyone blasting her for what they did, just giving opinions on what they would have done. Don't like opinions? Simple, don't post topics where you will get them.
     
    11-29-2010, 11:12 AM
  #69
Banned
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Originally Posted by wannahorse22    
I agree. Don't ya think this would help stop crime?
I am so sorry, but this makes me laugh so hard.

There are enough regulations already about owning and buying a gun the legal way. Do you think that the people who use guns for criminal activities follow any of those rules? Do you think they would have a sudden desire to follow the laws if a course was required?

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Originally Posted by Maverick101    
A hunters safety course should be manditory.
In NY a hunter safety course is mandatory to get a hunting license (which is totally different than getting the gun).
In some counties a handgun safety course is required to get a pistol permit (which you have to have to own a handgun in NY).
     
    11-29-2010, 11:21 AM
  #70
Foal
Well some people seem to try to push their way as the only way. I am not offended by opinions but the OP did what she thought best and none of us were there or know the whole story and background so opinions are good but some make it seem as if the OP screwed up. She did what she felt best for her.
     

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