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        12-15-2010, 03:35 PM
      #41
    mls
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AppyLuva    
    When I had my first horse years ago I used to set up hidden cameras that pointed towards my horse just in case.
    Seriously? If you were that concerned - why keep your horse where you did?
         
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        12-15-2010, 04:00 PM
      #42
    Banned
    I agree MLS! I do not own a barn but I can not imagine being a BO and finding out one of my boarders did that. I would so be pissed and that boarder would be out of there so quick they would know what hit them.

    If you do not trust your BO that much, leave.
         
        12-15-2010, 04:46 PM
      #43
    Green Broke
    Chill... She probably just wanted to make sure noone was doing anything to her horse.
         
        12-15-2010, 05:07 PM
      #44
    Green Broke
    I agree AB. That is unacceptable behavior from a boarder, to set up hidden cameras to spy on the BO or anybody else around the barn. That would get a boarder black-listed around here in a heartbeat. It would be extremely offensive.
         
        12-15-2010, 07:46 PM
      #45
    Weanling
    Just a point to avoid jumping to conclusions: she never said if she did or didn't ask permission. The barn owner may have approved of her setting the cameras up, and therefore wouldn't be offended. It may be a big barn, a barn where it's hard to keep track of what's going on, who knows. It sounds like she was just concerned for her horse's safety...I do understand why somebody might take offense to it if it was in their barn without their knowledge but I don't think it sounds like it was done with ill-intent.
         
        12-15-2010, 08:27 PM
      #46
    Weanling
    Just to clear things up I did ask the owner of the boarding stable for permission to set up the cameras until I got used to the barn and trusted the people better. She agreed because she understood and wanted us to feel comfortable about leaving our horse at the stable. The boarding stable was big and it's often hard to keep track of everything that goes on in a big stable. Before you say that my behavior was wrong please get more information about the situation. I no longer use the cameras because the stable I have Quinn at is smaller and it's easier to keep track of what happens to the horses and I feel that I don't need them out at a small stable. I only set up the cameras because I was severely new to horses and wasn't sure if I could trust anyone yet.
         
        12-16-2010, 12:21 PM
      #47
    Yearling
    If I was a BO it wouldn't really bother me all that much if a boarder set up cameras. I don't have anything to hide, I'd look after your horse as if it was my own and if you needed cameras to trust me, I'd be a little insulted that my personality didn't give off a trusting quality but I wouldn't kick you out or make you remove them.
    Mind you I would be embarrassed because you would probably catch me picking my nose from time to time, but if you have nothing to hide and you take care of a boarder's horses well, what would be the problem with cameras? If another boarder was being an obnoxious twit, it may even help you catch them.
         
        12-16-2010, 12:27 PM
      #48
    Banned
    Kmac, since you have nothing to hide is it OK for me to put a recording device on your phone with out you knowing? Or how about me installing cameras in your house with out you knowing?


    I see nothing wrong with a boarder discussing life with the BO and them working together to catch an idiot. But it is wrong for a boarder to install cameras at a barn owned by someone else with out their permission.

    If you do not trust your barn owner that much that you need to sneak around and install cameras on the sly then it is time to change barns.
         
        12-16-2010, 03:33 PM
      #49
    Green Broke
    But they are saying that they had permission....
         
        12-16-2010, 03:40 PM
      #50
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Alwaysbehind    
    Kmac, since you have nothing to hide is it OK for me to put a recording device on your phone with out you knowing? Or how about me installing cameras in your house with out you knowing?


    I see nothing wrong with a boarder discussing life with the BO and them working together to catch an idiot. But it is wrong for a boarder to install cameras at a barn owned by someone else with out their permission.

    If you do not trust your barn owner that much that you need to sneak around and install cameras on the sly then it is time to change barns.
    The only reason I didn't trust anyone is because of personal experiences. My family has never been nice to me and my dad used to do things that I'll never forgive him for. He has changed a lot but I am unable to trust things first before seeing how they work and what goes on. I shared this with the BO owner and she understood. Once something like that has happened to you it's hard to trust anything again. I did not do it to "spy" on anyone but I did it to know that I can trust. I never did say that it was right to install anything to another person's barn with their permission and I'm not that kind of person. If they tell me no then I'll manage without it. I'm kind of hurt that you'd think that I was that kind of person before you knew more about my history.
         

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