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post #21 of 185 Old 03-25-2010, 12:45 PM
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I was anti-slaughter, and then I had to write a presaudive paper for english class senior year, and I choose horse slaughter. In my research, I found that it really is a necessary evil. There seemly aren't enough horse lovers/money in the world to have good homes for every horse. The alternatives to horse slaughter (starvation, neglect) are much more horrible than horses being killed humanly.

If I was going to argue anything, I would argue for better mass transportation for horses. When I was researching before, that was the only part I could really hate, but even then, other animals are transported the same way, like cattle.

By the way, there really is no way to make a world wide ban on horse slaughter, or really anything. Just look at world politics, country's cultures, lifestyles, religions, and rules are just too different. There is no world government, regardless of how many countries or organizations think there is.

If you are really interested in stopping horse slaughter, here is the way to do it: stop the demand for it. Make people not want to eat it, not want to use it. If they stop buying horse meat, there will be no market for the horse slaughter plants, therefore they won't make a profit, therefore they will have no reason to slaughter horses.
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post #22 of 185 Old 03-25-2010, 01:35 PM
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WOOP, I sort of agree that horse should be killed but I think the more important thing is that they are not transprted to their deaths, especially in double deckers GRRR

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post #23 of 185 Old 03-25-2010, 01:39 PM
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Why? I can't see how that is inhumane. They are also pretty loosely packed in there because they can only haul so many pounds.

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post #24 of 185 Old 03-25-2010, 02:18 PM
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Actually, when I was doing my research, they were packed in tightly. Horses with broken legs would be right next to others, and be tousled around. Sometimes horses will fall and gets stepped on and climbed over. Sounds painful to me. Stallions would also be right in with mares, trying to mount them and brawling with others. Its things you would expect if you crammed a whole bunch of horses together in a small space.

I have no idea how to regulate such things, and I'm not saying I'm for regulation either, but there's no point in pretending it doesn't happen.
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post #25 of 185 Old 03-27-2010, 08:17 PM
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well, that's a strange bit of truth in my limited thinking. Without ever having seen them transported like that, I would say that LOOSE transport is not necessarily the BEST idea. Most economical? Quite possibly. It's one thing I actually wouldn't be opposed to looking into different shipping methods. At least putting like animals in the same trailer. (like no stallions with a bunch of mares, etc).
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Enviromentaly it would be a disaster.
Could anyone provide sources or give me a little more information on how this would be an environmental disaster?

Thanks!
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post #27 of 185 Old 03-30-2010, 10:23 AM
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FFN, if slaughter were to be banned worldwide, what would we do with all the carcasses when horses die?

Horses are large animals, so if they're buried instead of being processed, especially if they're euthed chemically, the chemicals can pollute the water tables and leach into the soil. Even if the animal is euthed by captive bolt, a large carcass rotting in the wrong area can easily cause chaos for the water supply.

In many places you can't bury a horse; it has to be hauled away by a renderer or cremated. Neither of those options is inexpensive, and someone who can't afford to feed the animal isn't likely to want to pay a service to haul away a body.

Think of that on a worldwide scale. If every horse was buried or left to rot where it fell, the ecological impact would be massive. Scavenger numbers would escalate, although some would surely be poisoned by chemically euthed meat.

In nature, wild creatures do not get to die of old age. Either they're taken down as babies, or infirmity and illness make them easy targets for predators. Predators also help keep their numbers in line.

Since horses are domestic animals and bred and protected by humans, their lives are much longer than those of their feral cousins'. Their deaths are also managed by humans, rather than left to chance. So when they die there are no predators involved, which means a very large carcass of which to dispose.

I live in one of the areas where it isn't illegal to bury a horse. These places are becoming increasingly few and far between, because we have to consider the ecological impact of burying such a large creature. Once human populations reach a certain density in an area, it's dangerous health-wise to bury a large animal.

Composting is an interesting way to get rid of a large body but you need the proper facilities and equipment in order to do it correctly, and most people don't have either one.
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Actually, when I was doing my research, they were packed in tightly. Horses with broken legs would be right next to others, and be tousled around. Sometimes horses will fall and gets stepped on and climbed over. Sounds painful to me. Stallions would also be right in with mares, trying to mount them and brawling with others. Its things you would expect if you crammed a whole bunch of horses together in a small space.

I have no idea how to regulate such things, and I'm not saying I'm for regulation either, but there's no point in pretending it doesn't happen.
Can you cite your research? I have loaded horses on a semi trailer and you generally run out of legal wieght before the horses are packed very tightly. Also it is in the owners best interest to see that all the horses get there in the best possible shape. Horses that have broken legs and fall down and get stepped on will not be worth much so that is avoided whenever possible. It does happen with any animal but it is rare and every precaution is taken to limit it.

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post #29 of 185 Old 03-30-2010, 04:54 PM
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I personally think horse slaughter is inhumaneIf you want to write a paper on this listening to both sides is good. I just recently wrote one about this topic for my english class and I tried to look at it from both sides and not be biast (it was hard.). Instead of doing worldwide , try to start smaller like banning the shippment of horses outside of the united states. I wrote mine on the passing of the prevention of equine cruelty act of 2009. After doing some research I discovered slaughter plants were not as nice as some people make them out to be.I discovered there were alot of other options for horses other than slaughter. It was quite eye opening. The humane socitey of the united states has a whole section on horse slaughter on their website . Use peoples opinions but keep alot of fact too, because I lost points on mine for not enough fact on the opposing side and more opinion Hope that helps :)
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It was quite eye opening. The humane socitey of the united states has a whole section on horse slaughter on their website . Use peoples opinions but keep alot of fact too, because I lost points on mine for not enough fact on the opposing side and more opinion Hope that helps :)
You will find **** few facts on the HSUS website.

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