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post #21 of 52 Old 03-26-2010, 12:52 PM
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They bought a buffalo, or shot one? Sorry, I'm a little confused.

I adore buffalo meat. It tastes like beef quadrupled. Yum!
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They bought it and shot it. Apparently there is this guy who raises them in SD(?). He knows the guys and told them they could come out and shoot one of his buffalo for a fee. I believe the guy sells them for meat anyways. I'm not 100% on all the details. I was really busy with school at that point so I wasn't paying that much attention. Until Dad came home with a huge buffalo hide/head and a crap load of meat!
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I am not terribly familiar with all the drugs out there but many of the medicines and drugs that are used in cattle say that you aren't supposed to use them within so many days of when the cow is butchered, that way they have time to metabolize it out of their system, drugs like nuflor and micotil (sp?) will sometimes kill a person if they were to be injected with it so it can't really be healthy to have in meat you're eating either.

I imagine you are right and they decide where the meat goes based on what quality it is.

And Ray, many of the terrible videos that are seen on YouTube are a result of kill horses having to be shipped to Mexico because there are no plants open in the US. Stupid people are going to continue breeding crap animals because, well, people are stupid!! Unless you are singlehandedly going to stop every backyard breeder, then the horse population is going to continue to increase and the only option is slaughter. I personally would much rather they be killed here in the US where there are laws and regulations to protect their dignity and prevent as much pain and suffering as possible.

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I'll try to shed some light on the issue of drug withholding times. Vaccines and antibiotics as well as dewormers are mostly the same drugs for all species the exceptions being vaccines that are species specific. There are only three drugs for internal parasites commonly used and they are pretty much the same for all species.

The trucks don't take the horses from the auction right to a kill plant. The animals are taken to a feedlot and I would imagine they are processed through somehow and put in with like animals to be fed and fattened. Usually this time is greater than the withdrawl time of any drug. Threre is also a big push by meat packers to give injections in low meat quality places. For instance, when treating a calf for scours instead of giving a shot in the butt which is high quality meat you would give it in the neck which is much lower quality. If the injection abcesses and that meat is thrown away then it is much less of a loss.

It's really not something that has to be figured out again. It was done for years with good results.

As to the question of unwanted horses, you can breed great horses to great horses and still get colts with crooked legs. Horses can get injured and become unusable even if they are well bred. I am going to shoot a yearling tomorrow that injured a front leg and will never be sound. Things happen that are not anyones fault and to just say it's the fault of the byb's is untrue and unfair. I keep my horses in my backyard but that doesn't mean I don't have high quality animals. My backyard also consists of 10 acres so how any acres does it take to be considered a responsible breeder?

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I don't know why anyone would want to even slaughter a horse or how they would have the heart to do it its just wrong and I am sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo against it like more than any of you could understand!
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By the use of your 50 ooooooo's....I can certainly understand why you are "sooooooo" against it.

This thread was not about being for or against slaughter. It was about the quality of the meat.
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I'm on the fence. I am aware that horse slaughter helps the horse market rise and the deficit right now is being caused by the ban of slaughter in the US (partially the reason, not all). However, I am against eating horses IF the person is not going to use all of the horse. I have absolutely no issues with people eating animals if they use the whole animal, whether they use it for themselves or their other animals to consume. This is my problem with the current slaughter process. I view it as cruel and unnecessary and definitely not efficient.

Can you tell I don't eat meat? ;)

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I apologize if this was already mentioned. I did read MOST of the posts, but it's getting kind of late for me...

I won't get into the chemicals as those have already been discussed. What is very interesting about horse meat is that apparently the meat is BETTER as the animal ages. Now, I would imagine that there is a "peak" of quality, but it is not like most meat animals where the younger the meat the better. My mother told me that and she, being from Europe ate quite a bit of horse meat. I'm sure I've heard it from somewhere else too.
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I'm on the fence. I am aware that horse slaughter helps the horse market rise and the deficit right now is being caused by the ban of slaughter in the US (partially the reason, not all). However, I am against eating horses IF the person is not going to use all of the horse. I have absolutely no issues with people eating animals if they use the whole animal, whether they use it for themselves or their other animals to consume. This is my problem with the current slaughter process. I view it as cruel and unnecessary and definitely not efficient.

Can you tell I don't eat meat? ;)
You don't know much about the slaughter process then. Every bit of that animal is used. The blood is dried for fertilizer, the bone for animal mineral supplements and also fertilizer. The marrow is melted and sold for human consumption and for technical uses. Hooves and some parts of the blood are used for makeup and film. The hides of course are used for leather. Every scrap of meat is used. If it isn't a retail cut then they use the trim for ground meat and things like bologna. The entrails are generally sold to ethnic markets in this country and outside. Even the stomach contents are used for fertilizers.

These examples are from a beef plant that I worked at for 9 years but the same would be true of a horse plant or pork or chicken or lamb.

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Good point, they are all involved in this. I've never understood the mindset that one species of animal is inherently more deserving of life than another.

Personally I feel more at ease eating a pheasant that I shot than a chicken. At least the pheasant had a good life.

It's an argument I've had many times with non-hunters. They tell me that the chicken's life before death doesn't bother them because "chickens are raised for food and pheasants are beautiful wild animals." I want to bang my head on a wall when I hear that.
Because almost every little girl wants a pony. Never heard of a little girl wanting a cow or a chicken. Ponies are pretty and therefore should have more rights. *roll eyes*

I am both surprised and pleased to see so many that share similar views. Usually I get "save the ponies!! And how could you like horses and be okay with horse slaughter!". Easy. A quick humane death (which they don't get in Mexico so we should open our slaughter plants back up) is much better than starving to death.
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