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post #1 of 23 Old 06-13-2011, 05:55 PM Thread Starter
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Horses ridden without owner permission.

We recently had 6 people enter the property we rent for our horses. They were drinking and decided it was a good idea to climb on the horses and ride them at night. I found beer cans in one of the turnouts and become suspicious. I called the neighbor and asked if he had seen anything. He stated no. The next day pictures where posted on "Facebook" . Our horses had been ridden by the neighbors friends. The majority of them dont even have any experience to speak of. They could have injured the horses in the drunken state of mind that they were in. We went to the local police with names, pictures, etc. Nothing they can do??? I now have No Trespassing signs littering the property. Im furious - and they are sporting the pictures on the profiles - Can anyone help!!!!!!!!
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post #2 of 23 Old 06-13-2011, 06:04 PM
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If the police can't help even with photographic evidence, I'm not sure there's much you can do.

Your best bet would be to contact an attorney, but I'm not sure what you want?

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post #3 of 23 Old 06-13-2011, 06:32 PM
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Thats awful i feel really bad for you i think i'd have to move them if they were mine id be worried it would happen again. Especially if the land owner is not supporting u. They could really badly upset the horses :( x
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Is the land owner backing you? If not, why? If there are pictures, I do not understand why some type of charge can't be brought against them.
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post #5 of 23 Old 06-13-2011, 08:30 PM
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You said you just put up No Trespassing signs, so I take it you didn't have them up before? Maybe that's why the police can't do anything.
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post #6 of 23 Old 06-13-2011, 08:58 PM
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That's possible, Ricci. Even with No Trespassing signs though, they don't sound like they understand something I learned in kindergarten: If it's not yours, don't touch it.

I didn't see where the landowners were even mentioned by the OP, so I don't understand how it came up that they weren't being supportive. If the OP is renting the land, I'm not sure how it's the landowner's responsibility to make the neighbors behave themselves.

OP, as I stated before, you might want to contact an attorney concerning this matter. If you have pictorial proof that they were riding your horses and you confirm that you never gave them permission, the attorney can at least send a cease and desist order.

As the horse owner, you're liable if someone gets hurt on your horses. Yes, I know that stinks and it sounds bass ackwards, but horses are considered 'attractive nuisances', so you need to have all your ducks in a row legally.

I'd also put up motion sensor lights and wild life cameras, so you can catch them in the act if they try and do it again.

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I don't understand why the police wouldn't be able to help -- at least to go to the people and warn them how it was illegal and dangerous. I don't know what the laws are there, but in Ontario, you don't have to have No Trespassing signs up. Unless someone has express permission to be on your property they are not allowed to be there.

I'm assuming these are older teens or young adults. Perhaps a lawyer would be able to draft a letter that could be sent by registered mail to the culprits informing them of your legal rights (whatever they may be) and how they could be held accountable (whatever that might be). Knowing they've been caught red-handed and that you won't stand for it might get around and "scare off" other would-be party-ers.
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Could you talk to the neighbors and make it clear how dangerous and unwelcome this is? If they don't respond appropriately, as a next step I like the idea of having a lawyer send a boundary-setting letter.

I have never heard of this type of thing but I am sure that it would be easy to do -- definitely gives me pause to think as we don't have 'no trespassing' signs up on our property and our horses would be really friendly.... It's a great warning. Keep us posted on how this turns out for you, so we can learn!
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post #9 of 23 Old 06-14-2011, 01:16 AM
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That's possible, Ricci. Even with No Trespassing signs though, they don't sound like they understand something I learned in kindergarten: If it's not yours, don't touch it.

I didn't see where the landowners were even mentioned by the OP, so I don't understand how it came up that they weren't being supportive. If the OP is renting the land, I'm not sure how it's the landowner's responsibility to make the neighbors behave themselves.

OP, as I stated before, you might want to contact an attorney concerning this matter. If you have pictorial proof that they were riding your horses and you confirm that you never gave them permission, the attorney can at least send a cease and desist order.

As the horse owner, you're liable if someone gets hurt on your horses. Yes, I know that stinks and it sounds bass ackwards, but horses are considered 'attractive nuisances', so you need to have all your ducks in a row legally.

I'd also put up motion sensor lights and wild life cameras, so you can catch them in the act if they try and do it again.
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But I agree with Speed, I would get all your legal ducks in a row. Even if it costs you some money, it's gotta be cheaper then a lawsuit when one of your horses drops an idiot on his rear.

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You said you just put up No Trespassing signs, so I take it you didn't have them up before? Maybe that's why the police can't do anything.
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I don't have no trespassing signs on my car. That doesn't mean anyone can just hop in and drive the dang thing.
I don't believe the police 'can't' do anything, I think it's more 'won't'.
Personally, I would contact a lawyer or bug the police to death.
I had some stuff stolen by a landlord once that the police 'couldn't' do anything about. One of the officers was very kind and pulled me aside and told me to go to the state police, instead, and explain that I wasn't getting help from the local police due to my land lord's standing in the town I was in. It worked. I got my stuff back.
I know nothing was stolen or 'damaged' actually, but, it's the same concept. People can't just come into your yard and take your dogs for a walk if they so choose. This makes me so angry.

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