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post #11 of 35 Old 10-31-2010, 09:06 AM
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It sounds like a silly decision to me. You are hurting your horses. Why not ceck ouut these barns in your area?

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post #12 of 35 Old 10-31-2010, 09:19 AM
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What's the name of your barn...I boarded at a barn just like this, and I live in Ohio, too.

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post #13 of 35 Old 10-31-2010, 09:45 AM
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I don't know the laws in Ohio, but in Oklahoma, you would have to explain to the Humane Society why your horses were thin when you see them so often. Even though you are paying the BO to care for your horses, they are ultimately your responsiblity, so you will bear some of the responsibility. If the Humane Society decided a seizure is warranted, and your horses are seized as well, you are looking at a potentially lengthy court process to get them back.

That being said, actual seizures are pretty rare. Animals are only seized under "exigent circumstances." Meaning they are only taken if it is a dire emergency. If the horses are just thin, the BO will likely just be given a warning to improve the care that the animals are receiving. How the BO will react to that is anybody's guess. Once you are on their watch list, you tend to stay there and they can show up at any time. You may also be given a warning, as would the other animal owners at the barn.

We rescued some really skinny horses last spring. They hadn't had time to put any weight on, but someone reported us. Sheriff's department handles the investigations and they came out. We showed how we had just got the horses, showed him the feed (he also showed up at feeding time, so he could vouch that the feed in the barrels was not just there for show).

He showed up on his own every couple of months after that, or whenever someone reported our horses...again. They were all gaining weight nicely except for the daughter's mare, and she was under a vet's care. Vet could not figure out what was wrong with her. Mare would get better and start gaining weight, then drop the weight off and get skinny again. Deputy said she was skinny, but not emaciated - but the mare eventually died. Guess that's the hazard with rescues.

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post #14 of 35 Old 10-31-2010, 12:27 PM Thread Starter
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It sounds like a silly decision to me. You are hurting your horses. Why not ceck ouut these barns in your area?

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The first barn you posted was $485 a month and the other was $600 a month I have two horses, I cannot afford that each month. I love the barns but that's just too much. Plus I jump but I do not need a jumping/eventing barn since I rarely do it.

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What's the name of your barn...I boarded at a barn just like this, and I live in Ohio, too.
I do not want to reveal that information sorry. I have had people show up at my barn trying to steal my horse before over me posting where they were at on a similar forum.

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I don't know the laws in Ohio, but in Oklahoma, you would have to explain to the Humane Society why your horses were thin when you see them so often. Even though you are paying the BO to care for your horses, they are ultimately your responsiblity, so you will bear some of the responsibility. If the Humane Society decided a seizure is warranted, and your horses are seized as well, you are looking at a potentially lengthy court process to get them back.

That being said, actual seizures are pretty rare. Animals are only seized under "exigent circumstances." Meaning they are only taken if it is a dire emergency. If the horses are just thin, the BO will likely just be given a warning to improve the care that the animals are receiving. How the BO will react to that is anybody's guess. Once you are on their watch list, you tend to stay there and they can show up at any time. You may also be given a warning, as would the other animal owners at the barn.

We rescued some really skinny horses last spring. They hadn't had time to put any weight on, but someone reported us. Sheriff's department handles the investigations and they came out. We showed how we had just got the horses, showed him the feed (he also showed up at feeding time, so he could vouch that the feed in the barrels was not just there for show).

He showed up on his own every couple of months after that, or whenever someone reported our horses...again. They were all gaining weight nicely except for the daughter's mare, and she was under a vet's care. Vet could not figure out what was wrong with her. Mare would get better and start gaining weight, then drop the weight off and get skinny again. Deputy said she was skinny, but not emaciated - but the mare eventually died. Guess that's the hazard with rescues.
Okay well in my opinion I kind of feel like she needs a little wake up call to start paying attention to the horses. I am working with mine and with time he will get better. I just wish she would help her horses more. I don't think that they will take any of the horses but I just wanted to make sure I couldn't get in trouble for it.
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post #15 of 35 Old 10-31-2010, 01:29 PM
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You may want to just talk it over with her. If you have to, compromise a self-care board. Make sure to get a contract also, just to avoid any problems in the future.

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post #16 of 35 Old 10-31-2010, 02:10 PM
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Yes you could get in trouble for your horses being underweight unless you have veternary records showing you are tending to there needs. If a horse is underweight from lack of feed is more serious than if it is underweight from an illness that you are trying to remedy. Sounds like lack of care
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post #17 of 35 Old 11-01-2010, 08:59 AM
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I believe that they won't seize a horse unless it is really skinny. Is your horse skinny or just a little under weight? Are his feet and such done? There are some terrible neglect cases out there and I am sure that they would rather focus on them than just an underweight horse.

A lot of people here are saying move to a different barn but I understand why you do not want to. Money and location is a huge factor, but the welfare of your horse obviously has to come first. You have discovered that she is not taking adequate care of your horses, so you should immediately begin going out there twice a day to care for them on your own.

Tell her you'd rather not do a board situation, perhaps she has a paddock you can rent out just for your horses? That way you can leave your hay there and know only they eat it, and you can see what they eat and when. You could put a sign on your gate specifying that only you are to feed and handle your horses.

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post #18 of 35 Old 11-03-2010, 01:40 PM Thread Starter
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They now officially only get turned out together so they eat the hay we throw I make sure both eats some. But mine is just skinny, before he was really bad but he is getting better, everytime I go out I give him afalfa cubes and an extra flake or two of hay. Other than that my two are kept up well. My older one is just a tad ribby right now then the other threw his shoe recently but the farrier is coming out for that soon. Outside that their hooves are in great shape.
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post #19 of 35 Old 11-03-2010, 01:46 PM
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I think it would be wise to start to look for a new place. I would never support (finanically or otherwise) anyone so unprofessional.
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post #20 of 35 Old 11-03-2010, 02:00 PM
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OP - do you have boarding contracts in place? Are your horses readily identified as yours? (brand, registration papers, vet or farrier bills)

If they do a siezure - ALL of the horses will most likely be taken. It is possible if you can prove you are paying this person to care for your horses and she is failing, you could make separate arrangements for yours.

I would contact the agent - as a previous poster suggested - and see what your options are. My guess is they are going to tell you by continuing to pay your board, you are approving the situation.

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