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    06-03-2010, 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by wyominggrandma    
Good, sounds like your hard work paid off. Glad the BI inspector was able to help so you can move her. Will the old owner give you the current BI that you paid for?
When the BI called him, he told him he wanted papers on his desk by Friday Morning or he would be paying a hefty fine. He can send them to me or the BI the BI said that there should be no reason they are not here by then, and to notify him if I do not get him, The BI also told me the man didn't give me "real" registration papers just a transfer report for AQHA..so basically he gave me close to nothing! But sounds like that is going to change and that all the paperwork should be in order and complete by next week or so...Whew!
     
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    06-03-2010, 01:00 AM
  #22
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States that require Brand inspections

South Dakota, Montana, Idaho, Wyoming, Nevada, Colorado, Utah seems to be some in California, Nebraska, Washington,

Oregon is not needed for ownership change but for crossing counties and districts...
Please expand if I missed any
     
    06-03-2010, 01:05 AM
  #23
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How bizarre! We don't have coggins or BI in Australia. Sounds very complicated!
     
    06-03-2010, 01:10 AM
  #24
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If youare passing through a state that requires a brand inspection and you don't have a BI and you get pulled over DO NOT UNLOAD YOUR HORSE. I was told by a relatively reliable source that if you don't unload your horses they are on less firm ground for holding them. Tell the officer that it took you 4 hours to load them and your buddy is still in the hospital from helping you but don't unload. There are lots of reasons that you could be hauling a horse through say Colorado without a BI. For instance when my parents moved from Oklahoma back to Utah they didn't have a BI for any horse because there is no BIs in Oklahoma. Had they been pulled over in Wyoming by an overzealous cop it could have caused trouble.
     
    06-03-2010, 02:41 AM
  #25
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I'm sorry, I know most of you that replied to me are looking out for me, but I really don't care, lol. I only know one person, out of the many, many horse people I know, who has a BI. I hardly ever transport my horse, I have no trailer so vets come to me. When I do move them to a new place, I'll do what I need for that place, but until then, meh. =]
     
    06-03-2010, 02:48 AM
  #26
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Originally Posted by riccil0ve    
I'm sorry, I know most of you that replied to me are looking out for me, but I really don't care, lol. I only know one person, out of the many, many horse people I know, who has a BI. I hardly ever transport my horse, I have no trailer so vets come to me. When I do move them to a new place, I'll do what I need for that place, but until then, meh. =]
I know you don't think it's a big to do and your state doesn't require transfer papers on ownership change, but something could come up and waiting til the last second is what gets most people into trouble because most BI's are nto cool with being rushed. 1 emergency is all it takes and you could lose your horse, it's only 10.50 in WA to inspect and 25.00 covers her entire lifetime...After going through this with my mare, I will always have it done, I was not so concerned with any fines I may have had to of paid I was worried about Ladies safety on this one...it's peace of mind for sure!
     
    06-03-2010, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by riccil0ve    
I'm sorry, I know most of you that replied to me are looking out for me, but I really don't care, lol. I only know one person, out of the many, many horse people I know, who has a BI. I hardly ever transport my horse, I have no trailer so vets come to me. When I do move them to a new place, I'll do what I need for that place, but until then, meh. =]
Ahhh, the thoughts of youth. Don't fix it ahead of time, wait until you get caught and then fix it.
BI's are REQUIRED in your state to move you horse, anywhere within the state, on ANY public road, they are PROOF of ownership(registration, bill of sale, etc are not enough) and you are not worried about it and "really don't care"..... You will care when you get caught for whatever reason and have the law come down on you. So will the many many horse people you know, but the one SMART person who does have a BI will be laughing at all of you.$25 for the lifetime of the horse is a small price to pay for fines and possibly losing your horse for not obeying the laws.
     
    06-03-2010, 09:49 AM
  #28
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Windy, glad things are getting worked out!

Ricci, I have to agree with grandma, you really should just get your BI so you do not have to worry about it. It is a silly thing to be so hard headed about.


For all you in the know about brand inspection stuff - if you live in a state that does not require BIs, but you are traveling through some states that do require a BI, how do you go about getting one? Are they a state specific thing? Do you have to stop some where in each state and get that states seal of approval? Is there a place to get a BI in states that do not do them?
     
    06-03-2010, 10:13 AM
  #29
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Just check with the local authorities and they should be able to head you in the direction of the local brand inspector. Or give a call to the state vet in your state and tell them what you want and how to obtain it. Any state that has cattle will have a brand inspector. The inspections are made of the animal and a paper filled out stating the animal has/has not a brand, the markings are filled out,ownership etc. Sorta like a Coggins paper to fill out, but signed by the brand inspector.
Yes, if you travel from a state that does not require one, into a state that does, you need one.
Like I said earlier, a brand inspection is like a rabies vaccination certificate for dogs. Why not just travel with one in case your dog should bite, you have proof of a vaccination. Otherwise your dog could be impounded or like in Wyoming, they can take you dog and euthanize it immediately and have the brain sent off if the dog bites someone and no vaccination for rabies. A simple paper takes care of that.
A simple piece of paper showing a brand inspection takes care of possible fines and impound of your horse. I know some people say" I have the registration papers, bill of sale, etc and that shows ownership, so I am okay". Actually if you really read into livestock laws, some states specifically state that you have to have a brand inspection or state permit to travel on ANY public road, bill of sale, etc is not proof of ownership. How silly ricciLove will be if she gets stopped and is asked for BI or state permit showing ownership and not have it, and get a fine and have her horse impounded. So many folks just figure its not a big deal, it certainly can be and when it happens its too late to laugh about it then.
     
    06-03-2010, 10:49 AM
  #30
Trained
Did I not say that when I do move my horses, I'll do what I need to do? A cop isn't going to come to my barn and demand a BI or Coggins. As I said, I don't trailer anywhere, I don't even have a trailer, nor a truck big enough to pull one.

Sorry, but comments about my youth affecting my judgement is uncalled for. I am very responsible, and seeing as no one on here knows me, I would rather not be clumped into the group of silly little girls. I haven't been a child since I was five. Ask my mother.
     

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