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  • Equine law not disclosing a horse has sarcoids
  • Do you tell buyer of horse that its had sarcoids?

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    09-19-2012, 02:37 AM
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Foal
Exclamation Is it illegal??

Is it illegal for a seller to not mention a very serious helth condition that could have taken over a whole herd? And coated me thousands of dollars for treatment. I recently traded my gelding for a mare with sarcoids and was wondering if it is illegal of her to sell me the horse with out informing me about it? I have her stalled and away from my other horses as it is contagous, she has given me the name and number of the vet who looked at her, it is just unbelievable what people will do to get a good horse.
     
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    09-19-2012, 02:51 AM
  #2
Yearling
Unfortunately, no. Horses are sold as-is and buyer beware. ALWAYS get a pre-purchase exam done by YOUR vet, not the seller's.
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    09-19-2012, 06:57 AM
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Showing
Where are you located? I believe some countries (Netherlands comes to mind) do have laws set up to protect the buyer in such situations.
     
    09-19-2012, 09:03 AM
  #4
Showing
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Originally Posted by Arabianhorselover19    
Is it illegal for a seller to not mention a very serious health condition that could have taken over a whole herd?
Sarcoids are not contagious. They're tumors caused by a virus, and the majority of them are benign.

I have no idea why you believe sarcoids are contagious and will 'take over a whole herd'. You keeping her quarantined is doing nothing but making the horse miserable.

If your horse's life is endangered by them, you should have been able to see them all over her prior to the trade. Did you agree to the trade without actually laying eyes on the animal? If so, why?

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Originally Posted by Arabianhorselover19    
I recently traded my gelding for a mare with sarcoids and was wondering if it is illegal of her to sell me the horse with out informing me about it?
No, it's not illegal for the previous owner to trade you a horse without telling you the animal has sarcoids. It would have been nice for her to let you know so you could have made a better informed decision, but it's not illegal.
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    09-19-2012, 09:24 AM
  #5
Foal
Sarcoids is contagious as I have had a vet look at her and I have read up and researched a lot in it, by the look of things if she doesn't take her back my parents will put her down, that way it does not spread and it will not get worse putting her in a lot of pain, her contained is not making her miserable she is fed watered and lunged everyday, she is very well looked after but she is a money pit and I don't need that around, thanks for the advice but if the lady does not pick up the horse by Monday next week she will be humanly euthanized.
     
    09-19-2012, 09:26 AM
  #6
mls
Trained
Sarcoids are not contagious and will not 'take over the whole herd'.
     
    09-19-2012, 09:28 AM
  #7
Showing
No, sarcoids are NOT contagious. I don't know where you got your information or what kind of 'research' you claim to have done, but it's wrong.

If the horse has sarcoids so badly that she needs to be euthed, then they should have been visible to you. If you took her anyway, why is that anyone's fault except your own?
     
    09-19-2012, 09:35 AM
  #8
mls
Trained
Perhaps you misunderstood your vet. The horse can develop more but it will not spread to OTHER horses.

Excellent info on sarcoid treatment.

Feature Case - Sarcoids - University of Minnesota Equine Clinical Services
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    09-19-2012, 09:40 AM
  #9
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Arabianhorselover19    
Sarcoids is contagious as I have had a vet look at her and I have read up and researched a lot in it, by the look of things if she doesn't take her back my parents will put her down, that way it does not spread and it will not get worse putting her in a lot of pain, her contained is not making her miserable she is fed watered and lunged everyday, she is very well looked after but she is a money pit and I don't need that around, thanks for the advice but if the lady does not pick up the horse by Monday next week she will be humanly euthanized.
In reading this and your other thread I feel bad for the other lady involved in this trade and hope she has a good lawyer. You're planning on putting this horse down and still expect to get your other horse back, even going so far as (possibly illegally) transferring papers back into your name? Unbelievable. No sympathy from me.
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    09-19-2012, 09:47 AM
  #10
Yearling
OP - I, too, feel for the other lady in this trade. Reminds me of the situation with my last horse. I traded a lady my VERY green broke gelding even up for her bombproof mare with the understanding that she was very experienced in training and could finish his training. A week after, she said he was running through fencing, bucking and was DANGEROUS to everything around him and had him put down, then began demanding her horse back. She even went so far as to tell me she was coming to get her with the sheriff (lies, btw). She threatened to sue. I spoke to a lawyer and he basically said she was crazy and that everything she was saying was a lie, that she had no ground to stand on to take my mare. Once the horse leaves your possession, you are straight up SOL. And to expect your horse back after you euth hers is just idiotic.

Sarcoids are NOT contageous. For the love of god, do not put that horse down. Obviously they are not bad enough to endanger her health or you would have seen them straight away. Just sell her or treat her.
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