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post #31 of 93 Old 08-10-2012, 09:55 AM
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Horses are flight animals, how can they be humanely slaughtered?
In a situation where they aren't feeling threatened, and as close to instantly as humanly possible. Their flight instinct isn't a worry if they don't see it coming.

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post #32 of 93 Old 08-10-2012, 09:58 AM
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I'm sorry if it doesn't conform to the very blatant horse eater bias on this forum (which I was duly warned about.)


Oh my, HORSE EATER BIAS!!!! You wuz warned, but yer sooo brave to come here and insult people with your not-so-subtle accusations that anyone who doesn't think like you is a horse hater!

I know from which forum you've come, and interestingly enough, the majority of horse owners over there are ALSO pro. In fact, every horse BB of which I've ever been a member or visited as a guest, the majority are pro-slaughter. So I'd really like to know where this supposedly 70% majority of horse owners who are antis are posting.

The problem I have with most of the antis is that they want to deny other people the right to do with their horses as they please. They don't want anyone telling them what they can do with their own horses, but want to take away a legal outlet for disposing of unwanted animals. They also don't have solutions for the unwanted horse problem, but who cares? What THEY want is all that matters, and anyone who thinks differently must be a horse hating, abusive Neanderthal.

The hubris and outright arrogance simply astound me.
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"In a situation where they aren't feeling threatened, and as close to instantly as humanly possible. Their flight instinct isn't a worry if they don't see it coming."


But they do see it coming.

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"In a situation where they aren't feeling threatened, and as close to instantly as humanly possible. Their flight instinct isn't a worry if they don't see it coming."


But they do see it coming.
Maybe the regulations are different over there. In Australia, horses are not allowed to see a dead horse or a horse being euthed in a slaughterhouse IIRC.

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So do cattle, and they're flight animals as well.

So do pigs, and they're far more intelligent than horses, which means they have a better idea out of all the other livestock what is happening.
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So do cattle, and they're flight animals as well.

So do pigs, and they're far more intelligent than horses, which means they have a better idea out of all the other livestock what is happening.
You took the words right out of my mouth, SR.

OP, I too would love to see unbiased research and facts - however, on this incredibly emotionally charged issue, I'm not sure they exist.
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I have no horse eater bias. I have no desire to eat horses. I don't make a penny off of horse slaughter. I also don't see any alternative that seems better than allowing US plants to slaughter under US regulators.

I'm still waiting for the anti-slaughter folks to come up with a retirement home for horses the size of Oklahoma, where all horses are allowed to live to old age and die with 'dignity'.

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I'm still waiting for the anti-slaughter folks to come up with a retirement home for horses the size of Oklahoma, where all horses are allowed to live to old age and die with 'dignity'.
As long as someone else funds it, I'm sure they'd be all for it.
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The RARA show pics of horses kicking and say they are being slaughtered alive. Those are death throes and it happens in all animals that die suddenly. The horses are brain dead and are not consciously fighting. We all saw that with Hickstead when he blew his main aorta. I'm surprised no one has claimed an assassin shot him to collect insurance or some other cockamamie tale.
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JumpingPaints,

I'm just real curious. Can you tell me the "statistics" of how many of the unwanted horses that you have taken in and kept and/or rehomed since the slaughter houses closed down? As in.

How many have you personally taken in from the Humane Society or a horse rescue facility?

How many horses that you saw in an auction that were in trouble have you purchased and brought home?

How many of these horses that you have taken in have been rehomed successfully (not sold, I mean rehomed and you keep up with them)?

How many of these horses that you have taken in have you kept?


Then I would like to hear out of us "horse haters and eaters" some or all of the same answers.
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