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  • How to write an equine bill of sale for a horse i'm giving away
  • Board has gone up since i signed board contract horse

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    04-18-2012, 10:26 AM
  #21
Foal
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Originally Posted by Daisy25    
OK - I'm confused here...

She owes $1200.

She's giving you a horse in exchange.

So it seems to me that you are "even". She owed $1200 - she gave you a good horse.

So why do you need a Lein?
To get her and the other 5 horses off the property in case she leaves them here.
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    04-18-2012, 11:28 AM
  #22
Yearling
I would definitely make her sign a bill of sale and transfer papers on the 'good' horse that you want to trade for. That way you have it in writing for both of you that the debt is paid **up to this date** and that any future debt that she might rack up doesn't get covered by the horse you are keeping. I can see her not letting you have registration papers on the horse you're keeping, or claiming that you agreed to take the horse for boarding fees (forever). After I got that horse safely in my name, I'd work on her for the boarding agreement. If she wouldn't sign it, I'd still evict her. If she still hadn't paid board, I'd sell the other horses or do the trade again so that I had papers on the good one that I kept. At least then you would have a registered horse in your name that you could sell for more than $40.

What a mess. Good luck!
     
    04-21-2012, 01:35 AM
  #23
Weanling
The horses should never have stepped foot on your property without her signing a contract. If you do take a horse for payment, like others have said, get a contract of the sale and papers in hand.

I guess this is a lesson learned about contracts and boarders. I didn't read all of the posts, but I believe if you sold one of her horses without her having ever signed a contract with you, you could be liable to repay her the cost of the horse should she decide to sue you. The letter you mailed to her of intent to sell may cover you, but unless she actually signed a form stating that this was a consequence of not paying for her board, I think you could get yourself in trouble. Hope that made sense.

Never, ever let anyone on your property to ride or board without a written contract to cover your butt.
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    04-22-2012, 10:20 AM
  #24
Yearling
I admit I didn't go through all the responses, but, if you want to get the horses off property...work on selling the low priced ones first. The statute doesn't say how much you have to seel them for, just to sell them. The chances of meeting that 1200 balance is slim adn sicne the board contract isn/t in writing, and you are going into another month, tack on that extra month board..now she is up to 2400 and you could also add some late fees in there. Once the lower priced ones sell, then go for the higher value ones. You may get just enough to cover the back board and your efforts, make sure to add in time and effort to sell, ( set an hourly "wage"), and have all of the horses off property.

Now as a caveat, you need to check with a lawyer in this to make sure you CAN sell since no contract was written. The other option is small claims court.
     
    04-25-2012, 12:18 AM
  #25
Foal
The Washoe County animal control cited the owner because we could not get her to have the horses veted, shots, and hooves trimmed. Finally she had some of the horses hooves done and gave shots herself but the citation also stated to have one horse in perticular vetted within 10 days as she is deteriorating and looks like she has something going on requiring blood work, appears to be very wormy and is in need of teeth floated. She failed to comply. So I hope animal control will impound this poor horse. She looks like she migh have cushing disease. This woman thinks if she just gives her shots she's in compliance. We washed and brushed 3 of the horses today because she hardly ever comes out.

Also for whatever reason the horse that I was going to trade for board for a total of two months she has now listed him for sale on CL today http://reno.craigslist.org/grd/2957483910.html. For whatever reason she decided to sell him to someone else. I told her she is not allowed to bring potential buyers here to ride and if she sells the horse he cannot leave the property because we have a Lein on all the horses and she is only allowed to sell him if we get the money. Legally because she refuses to sign a contract and because she is so far behind on board we can lock her out. She also thinks that she should be allowed to come and go as she pleases. She is even trying to dictate to us which horses we can and can't sell at the lein sale when according to the law we can sell all of them to satisfy the amount owed and get them off the property. If there is any money left over we are to return it to her. She interprets the statute to mean that we can only sell whichever horse/s she picks and when the debt is satisfied then the auction is over and the rest of the horses she can keep...free at our place is her thinking I can only imagine.
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    04-25-2012, 08:41 AM
  #26
Weanling
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Originally Posted by lifesabeach    
The Washoe County animal control cited the owner because we could not get her to have the horses veted, shots, and hooves trimmed. Finally she had some of the horses hooves done and gave shots herself but the citation also stated to have one horse in perticular vetted within 10 days as she is deteriorating and looks like she has something going on requiring blood work, appears to be very wormy and is in need of teeth floated. She failed to comply. So I hope animal control will impound this poor horse. She looks like she migh have cushing disease. This woman thinks if she just gives her shots she's in compliance. We washed and brushed 3 of the horses today because she hardly ever comes out.

Also for whatever reason the horse that I was going to trade for board for a total of two months she has now listed him for sale on CL today For Sale: Half-Arabian Gelding. For whatever reason she decided to sell him to someone else. I told her she is not allowed to bring potential buyers here to ride and if she sells the horse he cannot leave the property because we have a Lein on all the horses and she is only allowed to sell him if we get the money. Legally because she refuses to sign a contract and because she is so far behind on board we can lock her out. She also thinks that she should be allowed to come and go as she pleases. She is even trying to dictate to us which horses we can and can't sell at the lein sale when according to the law we can sell all of them to satisfy the amount owed and get them off the property. If there is any money left over we are to return it to her. She interprets the statute to mean that we can only sell whichever horse/s she picks and when the debt is satisfied then the auction is over and the rest of the horses she can keep...free at our place is her thinking I can only imagine.
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i figured this would happen. Or she'd show up in the middle of the night to take the horses. Seriously. Send them all to public auction and be done with it.
     
    04-25-2012, 12:09 PM
  #27
Started
Omg I saw those horses on craigslist and was like "wtf is this person thinking?!?". I'm so sorry that you're having to deal with this. I can't imagine she's going to get the money she's asking for either of the two horses I saw her post.

This being the other one: Half-Arabian Gelding

Also - is there someone at the house/property all the time so that she can't come by whenever she feels like it and access the horses? This makes me so angry and knowing that you're also here in reno makes me want to find her and slap her. Haha - entitled people upset me (obviously). If there's something I can do to help, idk how or what, but you let me know!
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    04-25-2012, 02:58 PM
  #28
Foal
Thank You for your kind offer.

I think she may be having a problem getting a brand inspection because that is the only way I will accept the horse as a trade.
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    04-25-2012, 03:41 PM
  #29
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I'm amazed that this woman has so many horses to start seeing as she doesn't seem to grasp the financial and time requirements involved in horse ownership. *shakes fist*
     
    04-25-2012, 03:45 PM
  #30
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I'm amazed that this woman has so many horses to start with, seeing as she doesn't seem to grasp the financial and time requirements involved in horse ownership. *shakes fist*

Good luck getting a brand inspector out. Has she agreed to give you the one horse as payment for the back board and to then REMOVE her remaining horses from your property?
     

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