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    05-04-2009, 01:15 PM
  #1
Foal
Registry Help

I was hoping someone could help me out. I got my first horse a Andalusian and I got all of the papers except one of her past owners refused to sign over the purebred certificate of registration, I have the orginal certificate but its not in my name is there someone I could talk to to get it signed over in my name? Its not essential but I would like to have it Thanks!
     
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    05-04-2009, 01:19 PM
  #2
mls
Trained
Contact the association.

Do you have a bill of sale to prove you paid for him?
     
    05-04-2009, 01:33 PM
  #3
Foal
I just found the number and called and they told me what I need to do I have to go on a paper hunt (apparently I don't have the original certificate the lady who owned her a couple of owners back refused to sign it over to anyone so what I thought as the original was the orginal or at least that's what I was told anyways... isn't)) O.O why can't things be simple (hopefully it will work out not sure why the lady won't sign it over >.< )

Yes I do have the bill of sale...... Thanks!!
     
    05-05-2009, 07:03 PM
  #4
Weanling
Generally in these situations, if you don't get all the papers when you get the horse - you don't get all the papers. Hope it works out for you.
     
    05-05-2009, 07:12 PM
  #5
Started
Somehow that doesn't seem legal, to withhold papers after a sale. But I have no idea how that kind of thing works, I've never had this problem.

Good luck.
     
    05-05-2009, 10:13 PM
  #6
Foal
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Generally in these situations, if you don't get all the papers when you get the horse - you don't get all the papers. Hope it works out for you.
The lady I bought her from made sure that I knew that and I personally didn't really care that much. I thought it would be nice to have but it wasn't neccesary so I thought I might as well give it a try and see if I could get them...Thanks I hope so to!

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Somehow that doesn't seem legal, to withhold papers after a sale. But I have no idea how that kind of thing works, I've never had this problem.

Good luck.
Well the lady refused to hand them over (she signed a bill of sale though) and whover bought her didn't fight the issue and bought her anyways and the person who bought after that got in contact with her and she still refused and it just kinda went down the line like that until I got her. The lady I talked to who was with the registry people told me I would probably be able to get it so I am hopeful ^.^

Thanks everybody!
     
    05-05-2009, 10:54 PM
  #7
Started
It just doens't make sense, why would someone refuse to sign over the papers but sign the bill of sale? Seems fishy to me. Good luck getting them.
     
    05-05-2009, 11:05 PM
  #8
Foal
I really don't know. Does anyone know if this could cause me problems in proving ownership? I have all the bills of sale. Thanks :)
     
    05-05-2009, 11:55 PM
  #9
Weanling
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Originally Posted by ilovelucy    
The lady I bought her from made sure that I knew that and I personally didn't really care that much. I thought it would be nice to have but it wasn't neccesary so I thought I might as well give it a try and see if I could get them...Thanks I hope so to!



Well the lady refused to hand them over (she signed a bill of sale though) and whover bought her didn't fight the issue and bought her anyways and the person who bought after that got in contact with her and she still refused and it just kinda went down the line like that until I got her. The lady I talked to who was with the registry people told me I would probably be able to get it so I am hopeful ^.^

Thanks everybody!
The first thing I would do is contact the lady who is withholding the papers yourself. You might be surprised.
The papers on my Paint mare were outdated by 3 owners back - no one had done any kind of transfers. Rather than make a long paper trail, I called that lady up and she happily agreed to sign the papers to get her transferred from her to me without all the BS.
I'm just saying you never know, she may just say sure or tell you how you can get them. The worst she can say is no, then you can ask her why LOL

Next up, the registry should be able to step in and do what they have to do, provided you have the proper paper trail for them to follow back to this lady who refuses to give up the certificate.

It may seem like a hassle, but it's worth it in my opinion - so absolutely you only have claim to her :)
     
    05-06-2009, 06:51 AM
  #10
Weanling
There may be some legal recourse you could go through for the papers, but then again, maybe not. It's not practical to jump to sue this one, and that one over paperwork. But, as long as you have the bill of sale, that is proof of ownership. Papers are one thing, but bill of sale and physical posession means more most of the time - I'm not saying there aren't occasions where courts find in favor of whomever had papers in their name last, but most of the time, there is a trail of papers - even if it is just bills of sale - that will hold more water than a he said she said p*ssing contest.
I've run into lots of people that will part with the horse, but not the registrations. Usually, they're just nuts. LOL
     

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