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    01-04-2010, 05:55 PM
  #21
Foal
Oh my gosh! I just don't understand how anyone could bring themselves to do that to anyone! A horse is like a friend, hate to be their friends! :( Of course hunters can be used for other things, in ireland we use them for hunting... obviously, and there are a load of classes too. Working hunter, hunter jumping and showing classes! Those people are very small minded and selfish! Way too far!
     
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    01-04-2010, 05:58 PM
  #22
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by speedy da fish    
It does mean fox hunting, it was banned in England a few years back and hunters made a bid deal over it. I mean there were kids on the TV crying because they wouldnt be able to ride their ponies any more (urm... yes they would!?!).
They still have fox hunts but no foxs are killed (on purpose), they put the scent on a cloth hidden in a hedge or attach it to a land rover.
The thing about fox hunting is its not guys on horses going round shooting them with guns. They have fox hounds that corner them and rip them apart and the people on horses follow to watch and enjoy the 'lovely' day out killing in the countyside.




Apparently foxs are a pest but they are nocturnal so only come out at night. They hunt chickens (which is the problem) so if people would just put their chickens in at night there wouldnt be a problem.
im pretty sure foxes arent nocturnal.... I see them running around almost everyday at my house (we have a den somewhere around here.....) :)
     
    01-05-2010, 12:16 PM
  #23
Showing
Foxes aren't truly nocturnal, because they hunt both day and night. Some of their prey are nocturnal (mice, rats, voles) so they will hunt at night, but they also hunt during the day.

Urban foxes have gone to primarily nocturnal hunting because it makes them feel more secure, but a fox out in a rural area will hunt during the day as well. I see them all the time.

The picture of the dead horse was graphic, but made no real sense to me. It was distasteful to see, but if the horse was already dead, why all the outrage?

For those of you not in the know, good hunters used to be fed to the foxhounds at the end of their lives. It was considered an honor to feed the hounds with the body of a horse who had ridden to them. Some places still accept horses to feed the hounds, but it's not widely practiced anymore.

Foxhunting where the fox is killed has been banned, but you can still foxhunt. After all, it's not so much about killing the fox anymore, as it is about riding hellbent for leather through the countryside, having a rip roaring good time.
     
    01-05-2010, 02:03 PM
  #24
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by PaintsPwn    
Its HARD to keep critters out of chicken houses when they really want something. We've gone through all sorts of measures to make the most secure houses possible for chickens in the past to no avail. It's not quite that simple.
true but (at college) we have chickens in an open pen, they are put away at night and they are fine.

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Originally Posted by ridergirl23    
im pretty sure foxes arent nocturnal.... I see them running around almost everyday at my house (we have a den somewhere around here.....) :)
they are, well were, but they hunt in the day due to shortages of food, they do go out in the day in the same way we go out at night :P
     
    01-05-2010, 02:18 PM
  #25
Started
Dont most people who fox hunt do it for pleasure??
Its got to be expensive to keep all those dogs and horses begin with, so arent most of these people wealthy?
I have a hard time associating not being able to kill a fox with having to kill your horse, unless your horse was paying the rent by helping you get foxes.
     
    01-05-2010, 03:23 PM
  #26
Showing
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Originally Posted by sillybunny11486    
Dont most people who fox hunt do it for pleasure??
Its got to be expensive to keep all those dogs and horses begin with, so arent most of these people wealthy?
To your first question, yes. To your second, no.

Foxhunting can be extremely expensive if you have to pay a cubbing fee every time you ride, but if you get invited to join a hunt club you pay a once a year fee, plus whatever the cost is for a hunting license. Even though foxhunters don't actually hunt to kill, they must have hunting licenses.

Like all horse sports, foxhunting is expensive. That doesn't mean only the wealthy foxhunt. I'm certainly no heiress, but I've been invited to join one of the local hunts, and JJ is being trained as my foxhunter.

Of course, you have to be INVITED to join a hunt club; you just can't decide you want in. They are exclusive in that way, which may be why people think of them as something only the wealthy can afford.

I scrimp and save to have my horses, as do a lot of established hunt members.

The Master of the Hounds owns the dogs, but the club fees help defer the cost of keeping and training them.
     
    01-05-2010, 04:23 PM
  #27
Started
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Originally Posted by speedy da fish    
It does mean fox hunting, it was banned in England a few years back and hunters made a bid deal over it. I mean there were kids on the TV crying because they wouldnt be able to ride their ponies any more (urm... yes they would!?!).
They still have fox hunts but no foxs are killed (on purpose), they put the scent on a cloth hidden in a hedge or attach it to a land rover.
The thing about fox hunting is its not guys on horses going round shooting them with guns. They have fox hounds that corner them and rip them apart and the people on horses follow to watch and enjoy the 'lovely' day out killing in the countyside.




Apparently foxs are a pest but they are nocturnal so only come out at night. They hunt chickens (which is the problem) so if people would just put their chickens in at night there wouldnt be a problem.
Okay I foxhunt it's not banned over here in Ireland and we don't go out to watch and enjoy the hounds ripping a fox apart most of the time the hunts masters don't want a fox killed and let the hounds catch a scent we have a good run because we are "on the hunt" at this stage and when it comes to the point when we can't gallop any longer because it might not be fair to the horses or the ground has gotten too bad the whipper in calls the hounds back from their hunt and that's that. I certainly do not go out to watch and enjoy a fox being killed by our hounds I go out for the pleasure of a day out with my horse, my horse loves it and I will continue hunting for the sake of my horse.
     
    01-05-2010, 09:56 PM
  #28
Foal
Once again, explore all aspects of the statement, not just what you are led to believe. There's always another side to a story...

Maybe the horse loved hunting SO much that it died without it. Not likely, but you can't tell just by looking at a picture. Don't just assume...
     
    01-05-2010, 11:43 PM
  #29
Yearling
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Originally Posted by eaferg    
Once again, explore all aspects of the statement, not just what you are led to believe. There's always another side to a story...

Maybe the horse loved hunting SO much that it died without it. Not likely, but you can't tell just by looking at a picture. Don't just assume...
I'm not offended by the fact that a dead horse exists, I know that horses die. What really bothers me about this picture, regardless of how the horse died, was that they blatantly used its body for their own viewpoint. I can't imagine how the owner of that horse would have felt, and I do feel sorry for the people trying to walk down the street having to see such a terrible thing. Nobody's opinion is worth devaluing the life, and death, of anything.
     
    01-06-2010, 12:21 AM
  #30
Weanling
Although I do not support hunting, I don't think this is the way to go..
No matter wether you support hunting or not support it.

A horse on the road with that stuck in it.. No thank you!
Nobody will go all 'Let's support this group!!' but be more angry AT that group!
     

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