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post #81 of 110 Old 02-07-2012, 09:00 AM
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I watched the episode the other night and the more I read into this, the more I believe the trainer and the less I believe the owner. Th fact that the owner has a past of doing things she shouldn't be doing is enough to make me suspicious, especially since she's the only one with firsthand experience with this trainer to say anything bad about her. Sure, we all say now we would look in a horses mouth if we had been in her situation, but seriously, what owner would watch their horse be beaten and not do anything about it? I think she's lying and being dramatic trying to get some money. for all we know, the lacerations could have been accidental by the owner, but she blamed the trainer. Something's fishy- especially if she took Misty to a show just ten days after the "incident". A horse owner that cares about their horse won't watch it be beaten or take it to a show with an extremely cut up mouth and while the horse was that skinny. If you look at the other pictures of her riding, she's not exactly easy on a horse's mouth.
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post #82 of 110 Old 02-07-2012, 09:12 AM
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Based off both stories, I honestly don't think there was any "beating" that ever occurred at all. At least not during the "incident".

I sure would like to know how the horse got those initial injuries though.

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I agree, sammerson.
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post #84 of 110 Old 02-07-2012, 02:33 PM
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I still don't think I would go to Judge Judy.

I honestly don't have anything against her as a judge, I just feel like people that go on her show or any show for that matter are doing so just to get their 15 minutes, not really because they care about the outcome of their case. And one side always comes out looking like a complete moron.

Maybe she has a valid reason for going to a tv judge, I dunno, not my place to make that call, maybe she felt like she needed to make the public aware of animal cruelty.
I don't think this is about making people aware of animal cruelty at all. IMO- at this point-the owner is just focused on slandering the trainer as much as possible. I agree that she tried to extort the trainer for quite a bit of money and now-due to either embarrassment or because she is angry she didn't get the money- she is doing what she can to wreck the trainer's reputation.

If the trainer has had two horses poisoned I would blame the owner. I would feel inclined to sue the owner if they were mine. She is the one who put the address and contact information out there for people to have. It's one thing to put your story out there- but putting contact information such as an address and phone number-or even an email address- invites people to stalk and harass someone.

People thinking with emotions-or who are unstable- are going to be more likely to target the trainer because the owner is accusing her of cruelty. Quite a few people will see the photos and not listen for the facts and won't always try to think in a neutral manner. They respond with emotion- "Oh that evil woman! She has to pay!" when the owner is clearly lying. IMO- this was an extortion attempt by the owner on the trainer.

I wonder if the owner of the horse involved in the tongue lacerations was scammed by someone else- and tried to get her money back through extortion of the trainer?? It doesn't say how much she paid for the horse involved after all- or how long she had the horse. It just says that the trainer accused had the horse only 10 days.

If the horses were poisoned AFTER this all occurred- I would blame the owner of the horse with the lacerated tongue. Whoever poisoned the horses- if it weren't the owner herself- she was probably responsible as she was likely the source of the information that the perpetrators used to track down and poison the trainer's horses.

This just goes to show- there are a lot of sick people out there.
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I agree...that last statement in that post was totally sarcastic

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Im so sorry guys i just cant look :( sorry i know i prob should x
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I don't think this is about making people aware of animal cruelty at all. IMO- at this point-the owner is just focused on slandering the trainer as much as possible. I agree that she tried to extort the trainer for quite a bit of money and now-due to either embarrassment or because she is angry she didn't get the money- she is doing what she can to wreck the trainer's reputation.

If the trainer has had two horses poisoned I would blame the owner. I would feel inclined to sue the owner if they were mine. She is the one who put the address and contact information out there for people to have. It's one thing to put your story out there- but putting contact information such as an address and phone number-or even an email address- invites people to stalk and harass someone.

People thinking with emotions-or who are unstable- are going to be more likely to target the trainer because the owner is accusing her of cruelty. Quite a few people will see the photos and not listen for the facts and won't always try to think in a neutral manner. They respond with emotion- "Oh that evil woman! She has to pay!" when the owner is clearly lying. IMO- this was an extortion attempt by the owner on the trainer.

I wonder if the owner of the horse involved in the tongue lacerations was scammed by someone else- and tried to get her money back through extortion of the trainer?? It doesn't say how much she paid for the horse involved after all- or how long she had the horse. It just says that the trainer accused had the horse only 10 days.

If the horses were poisoned AFTER this all occurred- I would blame the owner of the horse with the lacerated tongue. Whoever poisoned the horses- if it weren't the owner herself- she was probably responsible as she was likely the source of the information that the perpetrators used to track down and poison the trainer's horses.

This just goes to show- there are a lot of sick people out there.
She raised the horse from birth.
The trainer had the horse for 30 days not 10
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This was the bit that was used; the tongue was not cut, it split from pressure.

This bit was a solid shank bit with a port that was filled in with metal with about 1/4 in gap between the metal and the roller. There was no brake in the bit like a snaffle would have. Dr. Liz said that because of the bit, her head being tied down and Sharon getting after her with the lunge whip that the pressure caused her tongue to split wide open.

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This was the bit that was used; the tongue was not cut, it split from pressure.

This bit was a solid shank bit with a port that was filled in with metal with about 1/4 in gap between the metal and the roller. There was no brake in the bit like a snaffle would have. Dr. Liz said that because of the bit, her head being tied down and Sharon getting after her with the lunge whip that the pressure caused her tongue to split wide open.
And you know this how??? And your first statement "This waas bit that was used.... like you have a picture but didn't post it....

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And you know this how??? And your first statement "This waas bit that was used.... like you have a picture but didn't post it....

This was the bit used, hense.... discription of the bit. Find a photo if you like, I don't have one.
I know this because I got this decription from Deborah Dobbs as given to my good friend in an e-mail. This friend shows with both Sharon and Deborah.
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