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Trainer beat horse on Judge Judy

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Gross.

Karma, That's all I have to say. Can't wait to see what this "trainer" looks like. Probably some nasty, trashy, selfish, wannabe "horse trainer" that knows absolutely nothing about them. I just can't wait to see a picture what this lady looks like.

What a B.I.T.C.H!!!
 
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Poor baby... :( Not sure how much authority Judge Judy really has, though, other than fame. Googling to make sure I have my facts...

ETA: Yup! She does have her credentials. I just remember my dad (a lawyer and a darn good one) berating her when I was little so I wasn't sure lol. I just hope the prosecutors have all of the evidence they need to win the case! If not hopefully at least enough people will hear about this to put that lady out of business in the horse world for good! :mad:
 
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Judge Judy doesn't involve lawyers at all. The people have to make and present their own case. It's just like the People's Court...and Judge Joe Brown...and...well, you get the point. It's small claims court, plain and simple, just aired on national TV so everyone can see how stupid you can make yourself out to be and with a judge who can be a bit of a b*tch.

Saw the pics...not sure how one would do that much damage with a lunge whip to a horse's mouth unless you cranked it open and held it that way with one of those things they use to hold a horse's mouth open to do teeth floats (can't remember what the name of it is now).
 
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First of all, I fail to see how anyone could do that much damage with a lunge whip unless they held the horse's mouth open with a crank...and even then it's a stretch for a lunge whip to do that much damage unless the trainer had it tipped with razor wire.

Second, if you read the comments on the pic, the chick whose horse it is all but comes out and says that Judge Judy ruled in favor of the trainer who supposedly did this.
 
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Drafty, the way I understood it is that the "trainer" tied the horse's head down (which, to me, meant by the bit) then proceeded to throttle the horse with a whip, which likely caused it to fight the bit and lacerate the tongue.

I do feel sorry for the poor horse and a "trainer" that would do something like that pisses me off to no end (gives us all bad names).

BUT, the owner said she was standing there watching the entire thing :?. Why the flark did she not stop it long before it got to that point?? I wouldn't have allowed her to tie my horse's head down in the first place but I can see where a possibly novice person wouldn't know anything was wrong with that. HOWEVER, the first time she popped him with the whip while his head was tied down, I would have drug her out of the arena/pen by her hair and proceeded to throttle her.

So, in that respect, I don't feel much pity for the owner either...only the poor horse caught in the middle of all that stupidity.
 
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Drafty, the way I understood it is that the "trainer" tied the horse's head down (which, to me, meant by the bit) then proceeded to throttle the horse with a whip, which likely caused it to fight the bit and lacerate the tongue.
Okay, that makes more sense. The way everything was worded, it made it seem like the WHIP did that damage.
 
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Was the tongue cut by the bit? It must have been. I dont' know how else the horse would keep it's mouth open long enought for a lunge whip to do that kind of damage. Must have had a thin, sharp bit in, so while she was whipping it, it thrashed around, thus cutting its' tongue.

I do wonder why the owner did not step in. There's two sides to every story, so it will be intersting to hear them.
 
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A good friend of mine sent her horse to a trainer well known for years around here for training Paints and there VERY slow WP gaits and head sets.
He almost cut her mares tongue in half by tying her head low and down and then lunging around the round pen.
Friend showed up, saw the tongue and took horse, was able to ride her after that but only with a snaffle or side pull.
People are still sending horses to him to train.... UGH
 
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I will have to remember to DVR this now! I'm curious to see how it turns out.

I'm also curious as to why she is only pursuing small claims. If someone did this to my horse I would have criminal charges brought against them, or at least would have called the cops. Of course, we don't know the whole story yet!

Should be interesting to see how this progresses!
 
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It may be as much a case of an ill-prepared horse as a case of abuse. I cut a horses tongue once when I dropped a rein while is was leading it and the horse stepped on the rein and jerked her head a little. I never thought anything of it until blood started coming out her mouth. Her tongue was only cut once but it was quite deep and wide. I could see this happening if a horse had its head tied down and paniced. I certainly wouldn't tar and feather a trainer over this until I knew the whole story. Undoubtedly there was a mistake made but we have to remember that things happen when you go to training on a horse.
 
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I still don't think I would go to Judge Judy.

I honestly don't have anything against her as a judge, I just feel like people that go on her show or any show for that matter are doing so just to get their 15 minutes, not really because they care about the outcome of their case. And one side always comes out looking like a complete moron.

Maybe she has a valid reason for going to a tv judge, I dunno, not my place to make that call, maybe she felt like she needed to make the public aware of animal cruelty.
 
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I don't think this is about making people aware of animal cruelty at all. IMO- at this point-the owner is just focused on slandering the trainer as much as possible. I agree that she tried to extort the trainer for quite a bit of money and now-due to either embarrassment or because she is angry she didn't get the money- she is doing what she can to wreck the trainer's reputation.

If the trainer has had two horses poisoned I would blame the owner. I would feel inclined to sue the owner if they were mine. She is the one who put the address and contact information out there for people to have. It's one thing to put your story out there- but putting contact information such as an address and phone number-or even an email address- invites people to stalk and harass someone.

People thinking with emotions-or who are unstable- are going to be more likely to target the trainer because the owner is accusing her of cruelty. Quite a few people will see the photos and not listen for the facts and won't always try to think in a neutral manner. They respond with emotion- "Oh that evil woman! She has to pay!" when the owner is clearly lying. IMO- this was an extortion attempt by the owner on the trainer.

I wonder if the owner of the horse involved in the tongue lacerations was scammed by someone else- and tried to get her money back through extortion of the trainer?? It doesn't say how much she paid for the horse involved after all- or how long she had the horse. It just says that the trainer accused had the horse only 10 days.

If the horses were poisoned AFTER this all occurred- I would blame the owner of the horse with the lacerated tongue. Whoever poisoned the horses- if it weren't the owner herself- she was probably responsible as she was likely the source of the information that the perpetrators used to track down and poison the trainer's horses.

This just goes to show- there are a lot of sick people out there.
 
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I wouldn't go on Judge Judy either. I'd rather get beat with a lunge whip than listen to that shrew berate someone. She's wrong as often as she's right and she's always a *****.
 
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It seems to me as if the owner is also culpable of animal abuse, if indeed she remained passive during the abusive training session that resulted in injury. So...if somebody takes a baseball bat to your car, does the damage in your presence and you do NOT complain, then, in hindsight you decide to sue, what kind of a case (over property) do you have?
Though the horse is her property, our judicial system DOES recognize animals in separation of inanimate objects. Therefore, IMHO, they are BOTH guilty of cognizant animal abuse. If Judge Judy agrees with me, than the horse will be confiscated by Animal Control and sent to the closest shelter or, maybe a rescue.
I think it will end up being a decision over the contract for training.
***jerk trainer, idiot owner***
 
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That horse was in the wrong place at the wrong time. Poor thing couldn't even do anything about it.

Maybe they want to be on Judge Judy to embarrass the trainer and make sure they can't do this to another horse. But the owner is in the wrong too for not objecting to anything that looked less than kosher.

Hopefully the horse heals up soon.
 
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