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    07-09-2013, 06:31 PM
As long as you have access to the horse and the horse was not stolen, and you are free to move the horse out of the new barn at any time, again; without a written agreement that the horse NOT be moved without your knowledge or consent, there is no legal recourse. Now, if the horse sustained an injury or illness directly related to the move you might be able to do something but otherwise it is between you and the trainer at this point.

I agree with Verona..while the horse is still up for sale, and if you decide to remain with that trainer, I would get a very clear contract into place. I will say that I question the trainer's, uhm, professionalism if he could allow a family member/girlfriend whatever to "force" him to move a horse he doesn't own. That excuse sounds a little strange. Personally, I'd be looking for a different trainer if possible.

Just out of curiosity, and I missed it in the first post...were you contacted about the move and refused or was the horse just moved? If you were contacted first, refused to have the horse moved and the horse was moved anyway you may have a legal right as technically the horse could be considered stolen. If the horse was just moved and then you were notified, then it is more a case of really unprofessional conduct. Even if you were previously notified the case is still very weak due to the argument that you know where the horse is located and have free access and can move the horse at any time.
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    07-09-2013, 07:31 PM
Green Broke
Since a girlfriend is involved now,it starts to get sticky. I'm just seeing a red flag.
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    07-09-2013, 07:39 PM
Originally Posted by GlamThreads    
I solely and leagally own the horse. The trainer did not change barns, only my horse was moved out. Trainer claimed he would market, promote and show horse to prospective buyers. But the owner of barn where horse is was completely unaware of what the horse was there for and wanted to know what to do with her. I do know how much she is being marketed for and what the trainers commsion is supposed to be.
that may all be true-to YOU. But without a WRITTEN bill of sale, and a WRITTEN contract from the trainer-you are, IMO, on thin ice. You are asking what LEGAL recourse you have? Not much without a contract. For someone who is so adamant about knowing SO much about the horse industry-you should know better. I also find the whole GF excuse a bit questionable. Where are the rest of his horses?

Personally-I would probably get a contract-like yesterday, or get my horse. Period.
    07-09-2013, 07:45 PM
Girlfriend issue? You mean the trainer's girlfriend doesn't want your horse there because she thinks you & him are getting too close?
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    07-10-2013, 07:03 PM
Your legal recourse? Go get your horse and move it where you want it to be.
    07-10-2013, 07:32 PM
Green Broke
What legal recourse are you wanting?

I'm not getting it.

You wanted the trainer to market, advertise and sell the horse. Sounds like even from your point of view that trainer is doing that.

Do you have a problem with where the horse is now at?

Or are you just angry you weren't told about it before hand?

If you don't want the horse there and don't want the trainer to sell the horse any longer then go get said horse.

Pretty simple.

If you had a verbal agreement for the trainer to be showing, riding and selling the horse then it makes sense foe the horse to be with the trainer to do so so I don't see a problem there.

But again, if you don't want the horse there then just go get it. Otherwise if there are no other problems then not being told before about the move then just let it be.
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    07-12-2013, 05:34 AM
Is the trainer hiding your horse from you? Physically keeping you from your horse? Is there a problem with the new barn? I'm not seeing the 'legal' issue here... especially since you don't have any written contracts.

If you don't like the barn, move the horse. If you want to stay with the trainer you're currently with then keep the horse there, if you don't then move the horse. Don't go looking for legal recourse until there is an actual legal problem that needs to be dealt with. As long as everything can be sorted out civilly then take the easy way out.

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