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        03-21-2013, 01:20 PM
      #11
    Yearling
    First welcome to the forum as you could see there is a lot of help from people so good luck I hope this works out for you
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        03-21-2013, 04:06 PM
      #12
    Foal
    An update, I do have a bill of sale. I am going down to talk with my parents after school. I am hoping for the best. She is my first horse. She is my girl. When she hears me whistle she runs in from the field to see me. She is such a sweet girl. I couldn't imagine life without her.
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        03-21-2013, 05:12 PM
      #13
    Started
    Can't offer any other advise that hasn't been said. Just want to wish you luck.
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        03-21-2013, 06:10 PM
      #14
    Weanling
    If you would like to pursue some sound legal advice without having to pay lawyers fees, check to see if there is a Law Line in your area. The people who staff it are very knowledgeable about the law. They will be able to answer any questions you have about your situation, and can make appropriate recommendations. I have used the Law Line myself with good results. Good luck!
         
        03-22-2013, 02:19 AM
      #15
    Yearling
    #1) if the 2nd owner did not finish paying for them, than the first owner should have reported them as stolen property. If there is no police report she is going to have a hard time "proving" anything at this point.

    #2) If she has the real first and last name or address of the 2nd owner there is no reason the police could not have re-claimed the horse or tracked down the owner.

    #3) If she was so concerned, she would have taken the 2nd owner to court.

    Now if she has filed a police report and listed the horse as stolen, technically you are in possession of stolen property and she can reclaim the horse. If she tries that, be sure she has the police with her- otherwise she could be "faking".

    If the horse is stolen, it is also possible that you can pay the original owner for the horse and the papers, but you would probably need to take the 2nd owner to court as well to get your money back.

    It may not hurt to send her T's information- as that is the person she will probably have to take to court to get her money back. Again a very messy situation...

    How much is the horse worth? If this is a high value animal I would be more concerned vs if this was someone's backyard pet. It sounds like she is more concerned with the money she is owed than getting the horse back.

    If she does not have a signed contract with owner #2, or a police report, there is not much she can do legally. Check netposse and see if the horse is listed as stolen.

    I doubt she has the energy or means to go after you or the original owner. Unless these are high value animals it would probably not be worth it to go to court.
         
        03-22-2013, 02:50 PM
      #16
    Foal
    I have no advice, but I am so sorry this is happening, and I hope it all turns out okay :(
         
        03-22-2013, 08:17 PM
      #17
    Showing
    You could contact the registry. They don't like this sort of thing happening and a breeder can lose their priveleges and not be able to register with them.
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        03-23-2013, 05:52 AM
      #18
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Taffy Clayton    
    I wouldn't worry too much about it.
    You might never get the papers you wanted.
    Possession is 9/10 of the law, if original breeder hasn't worried about getting their money by now, I doubt they will be too eager to come after you now.
    I would just sit tight and let the breeder make the first move. Why spend a bunch of $$$ on a lawyer if it isn't necessary.

    But do keep track of all bills paid on the horse and anything that proves you are the owner of the horse. I hope you got a bill of sale.
    I,d agree with taffy ,you bought the horse in good faith,the breeders contract is with the woman who bought from them,
         
        03-23-2013, 02:35 PM
      #19
    Green Broke
    Failing to pay isnt stealing, and police arnt going to track down anyone. If anything it is a civil matter between owner one and owner 2.
         
        03-24-2013, 02:46 AM
      #20
    Weanling
    While I am not a legal expert by ANY means... I would refrain from offering the original owner any money, portion or not. This person could be blowing smoke up your "you know what". There's no reason you should be paying THEM when you're not at fault.

    I agree with everyone else. Talk to a lawyer!
         

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