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    08-05-2011, 04:17 PM
  #21
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by Piaffe    
All the lawyer is saying is to take them to court....I would...but my point is I actually wanted the horse and I was just wondering if I legally had the right to pick her up without notice.
Churumbeque- I never said that I couldnt afford someone to take me down there? I said it was a REALLY bad time. I am having 2 screws and bone grafts put into my ankle anytime. In fact I have the last pre-surgery CT scan today. I am going to be really busy and recovering with that.

The vet did examine her,but after a couple emails the seller said she switched to a cheaper vet whom she is refusing to give me the name...I don't even know for sure if there is/was a vet involved at all.

Coffegod- no...it isnt that long of a trip..I too have driven a LOT LOT further for a horse. Im just not sure I could work out going.

Bah...thanks again for the different views. I need to make a deciscion soon I guess. I could try to run down before the surgery. Or I could just go ahead and file the court papers and forget the whole thing :(
You would have hired the vet for a pre purchase exam so you should have the vet contact info. So it sound like you didn't even get a pre purchase exam since you do not know if a vet is involved.
     
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    08-05-2011, 09:32 PM
  #22
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All the vet bills from her vet checks were supposed to be given to me. They never came. I asked what was going on with the original vet and she said she switched to a new vet. I asked what the vet bills would be to see if she would send them to me. They never arrived and I havent heard from her since. No she didnt have an "official" pre purchase exam. She was checked right after I bought her for breeding,though. She was also sold guaranteed sound and once again the only reason I ever did this was because I thought Jill Burnell from Gray Fox Farms was a reputable seller. I obviously was wrong and made a mistake...now I just need to clean it up....
     
    08-05-2011, 10:04 PM
  #23
Showing
A horse was sold guaranteed sound? Major, major red flag right there.
     
    08-06-2011, 01:43 PM
  #24
Weanling
OP--

I'm so sorry this happened to you.

This has ALL the hallmarks of a scam.

The scam works because the unwitting victim (ie: you) really, REALLY want the product (ie: the horse) and because you want this SO BADLY, you ignored all the warning signs before getting into this deal.

You found the horse of your dreams at a discounted price....did not go in person to investigate....allowed the seller to handle all the vet checks...allowed the seller to make all kinds of promises until she had your money...

And now *poof* the seller and the magical horse are essentially gone...with no way to contact them....no way to prove that the sale was legal (what with all the paperwork in various other names)...

For all you know...this scammer was trading on the name or impersonating the reputable seller that you THOUGHT you were buying from.

Your lawyer is right. Sue for your money back - IF you can even prove your case against this scammer - and then go buy a REAL horse....that you personally view and have your vet inspect.
     
    08-06-2011, 02:39 PM
  #25
Trained
Oh my! Is the seller still on facebook? I would contact her immediately & tell her if you do not hear from her ASAP, you are proceeding with a lawsuit, if she is in fact legit, she'll contact you back. If not, I have a feeling you got scammed. You can't sue someone who doesn't exist.
     
    08-06-2011, 06:15 PM
  #26
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by Daisy25    
OP--

I'm so sorry this happened to you.

This has ALL the hallmarks of a scam.

The scam works because the unwitting victim (ie: you) really, REALLY want the product (ie: the horse) and because you want this SO BADLY, you ignored all the warning signs before getting into this deal.

You found the horse of your dreams at a discounted price....did not go in person to investigate....allowed the seller to handle all the vet checks...allowed the seller to make all kinds of promises until she had your money...

And now *poof* the seller and the magical horse are essentially gone...with no way to contact them....no way to prove that the sale was legal (what with all the paperwork in various other names)...

For all you know...this scammer was trading on the name or impersonating the reputable seller that you THOUGHT you were buying from.

Your lawyer is right. Sue for your money back - IF you can even prove your case against this scammer - and then go buy a REAL horse....that you personally view and have your vet inspect.
Unfortunately, I agree completely with everything Daisy has said.
     
    08-06-2011, 06:53 PM
  #27
Super Moderator
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Originally Posted by mls    
Direct and to the point.

If you have the paperwork that proves you own the horse, it should be a done deal.

Ortho surgeries are generally scheduled well in advance.
That may be one of the problems. It seems the papers are still in the previous owners name and may never have been legally transferred.
     
    08-06-2011, 07:04 PM
  #28
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I posted a query on their facebook page. I will be interested in seeing what they do. Betcha they "unlike" me.....

Is Sequel the mare you bought?
     
    08-07-2011, 12:06 PM
  #29
Green Broke
Question....is the broodmare "Sequel" ever going to be sent to the person who purchased her? Your farm's reputation may be at stake here and many people are watching to see what is going on here.
  • Your post on FB makes it sound like it isn't even your horse.
  • I think you could have been more professional in your inquiry and maybe get a reasonable response from them
     
    08-07-2011, 01:56 PM
  #30
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Originally Posted by churumbeque    
Question....is the broodmare "Sequel" ever going to be sent to the person who purchased her? Your farm's reputation may be at stake here and many people are watching to see what is going on here.
  • Your post on FB makes it sound like it isn't even your horse.
  • I think you could have been more professional in your inquiry and maybe get a reasonable response from them
That is because it is not her horse. The original poster is Piaffe.
I don't think there is anything wrong with her facebook post, the barn took this girls money and now are not responding to her inquires as to when she can pick up her horse. According to the website she paid $8,000 for the bred mare. If that was me(well I don't have that kind of money, so hypothetical me lol) I would be pounding on their door with the police behind me demanding to get my horse and getting a vet check as soon as I got her home to make sure she was bred. The price was over twice as much for her to be bred to the stud the original poster wanted.
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