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    08-07-2011, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by churumbeque    
Question....is the broodmare "Sequel" ever going to be sent to the person who purchased her? Your farm's reputation may be at stake here and many people are watching to see what is going on here.
  • Your post on FB makes it sound like it isn't even your horse.
  • I think you could have been more professional in your inquiry and maybe get a reasonable response from them
As to your points, it isn't my horse. The inquiry was sent to alert them to the fact that this situation is coming to the interest of people in the horse community.

BTW, as expected, no response.....yet.

There are many reasons the horse may not have been shipped.
* injury
*horse is still open and the breeding won't catch
*the horse is still tied up in estate settlement (very likely)

Whatever the reason, a reputable breeder would KEEP the buyer informed. She says they will not answer ANY of her queries.

Unacceptable. If this is how Gray Fox Farm does business, people should know.
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    08-07-2011, 02:23 PM
I think this is a scam... Owner died, bought horse, decided to sell.For all the OP kinows, the papers are false. Not traveling to see horse or find someone to go see horse for that amount of money is not real smart.
If the lady won't answer, what about the farm owner/manager? What about the registry? Call them and explain what is happening and maybe they can help with information.I would be calling the farm, the farm owner, the farm manager, any contact named over and over until someone answers. With the internet, it is so easy to take a photo, put up and ad, make false papers and sell said horse without anyone actually even looking at the horse in person. Happens alot .
Unfortunately, if it sounds like a good deal, then its probably false.
I am not sure you can even go to court if there is no contact with the lady who sold you the horse, she will have to be served before you can go to court. You will have to have a physical address for her to be served and she probably even lied about that.
    08-07-2011, 03:06 PM
Have you notified the registry? Perhaps they can assist you with this.
    08-07-2011, 03:24 PM
I agree, I think it's just a scam. I would listen to your lawyer and get your money back. I hope everything works out!
    08-07-2011, 03:36 PM
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It may be a scam, but I would be surprised. This is a well respected breeding operation that stands to really suffer from this kind of PR. No 8,000 horse would be worth that, IMO.

However, there may have been a problem that they did not expect that may require them to return the money. Big farms are expensive and they may not have the money at hand anymore.

Reminding them what may be at stake (their reputation) may encourage them to make things right.....or not.

Unfortunately, the horse world is forgetful. So many people have forgotten some of the things the Ward family did and the son is the jumper darling again.

Oh, well........
    08-07-2011, 04:17 PM
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OP - have you actually spoken to someone AT the farm by contacting them at the numbers on their official site or did you contact the 'seller' via an off-site ad or other resource? The reason I ask is, it is not impossible that someone else has hijacked the horse's "for sale" status to broker this deal and has nothing to do with the farm whatsoever. It is very possible to have listed an off-site ad using this horse's info, provide you what would seem like the right info and the whole time you not being talking to anyone actually AT the farm. As Allison points out, this just does not add up for a farm of this caliber/reputation - which makes the other scenario seem even more likely.
    08-07-2011, 04:32 PM
Interestingly enough, I just had contact with someone at the actual farm. Had no problem answering me at all. There are always two sides to every story.
    08-07-2011, 05:21 PM
This has all the red flags of a scam. But you still have to wonder....has the "horse" died? Owner died/hospitalized and sale has been forgotten? Many, many possibilities. In any case, I would ask your lawyer if you can legally drive down and pick up your horse.
    08-07-2011, 05:30 PM
Originally Posted by wyominggrandma    
Interestingly enough, I just had contact with someone at the actual farm. Had no problem answering me at all. There are always two sides to every story.
And?...What did they say?
    08-07-2011, 06:24 PM
Umm, seems as if a bit of information was left out from the OP. As I said, two sides to every story. The lady I emailed had no problem telling her side, but unless she says to state her side, I will not say anything more.

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