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post #51 of 58 Old 08-07-2011, 11:37 PM
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WEll, whatever the story or who is telling the truth and who isn't, I don't think publically trashing anyone is a good thing.
If indeed you have the paperwork and such, just go get your horse. Quit talking to a lawyer and talking about lawsuits, just go get the horse and take the chance that she is still pregnant. Usually an ultrasound is done at 30 days and again at 60 days.
I would have picked up my horse after the first breeding, and if the breeding didn't hold, then take her back and breed her again. If you are only 6 hours away, that is not far to travel at all.
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post #52 of 58 Old 08-07-2011, 11:41 PM Thread Starter
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I really don't want to start a war with this. And I was NEVER out to bash Jill or Gray Fox Farms. (And am still not) That was NEVER my intent. I only wanted to know what was going on. This lady is for some reason lying about this whole thing and I honestly have NO idea why. I have done EVERYTHING in my power to try to get ahold of her to get the horse. I honestly thought that I had been scammed,the owner had died, or something.

I even called a farm that is neighbors to hers and asked if they could see if there was a mare matching the description. They said they didn't see one and that the whole place is a junky rundown place that no horse should be at and after looking at their website said it is a really deceiving,because it is nothing like that. That was over a month ago and when I REALLY started worrying.

Anyways...Phew...I am glad it ended up not being a scam because I wanted the horse :) I will certainly post pics once I get her...and hopefully eventually...pics of her redwine foal :)

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Subbing bc it's a very interesting story. Best of luck to you, and the mare and foal.
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post #54 of 58 Old 08-07-2011, 11:53 PM
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I do not think she posted just to bash them, seeing as she didn't immediately mention who the breeder was. I also think the entire thing was handled VERY badly on their end, discussing a private matter with a random person off the internet?? They shouldve thanked you for letting them know and for the concern and then handled it on their own.
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post #55 of 58 Old 08-07-2011, 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by TKButtermilk View Post
I do not think she posted just to bash them, seeing as she didn't immediately mention who the breeder was. I also think the entire thing was handled VERY badly on their end, discussing a private matter with a random person off the internet?? They shouldve thanked you for letting them know and for the concern and then handled it on their own.
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^^This exactly!
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post #56 of 58 Old 08-08-2011, 01:21 AM
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The OP mentioned the name of the person and the farm in the very first post..
And just to set the story straight, I wrote to the farm and said a story was being posted on a public forum about the farm and saying things that made the farm sound very dishonest. So the person wrote me back, and I guess felt since the other person involved had already posted to a public forum, why not tell her side of the story?
I really don't care one way or the other. My only thought on this whole thing is" if I paid that much money for a horse over four months ago, didn't hear anything from the seller, had the bill of sale and papers on the horse and it was only 6 hours away, why in the world would ANYONE wait four months to post to a public forum about "what should I do, my lawyer says this, tell me what to do".
I would have been getting the horse as soon as she was bred and brought her home. If I could afford to pay that much money for the horse, then I certainly could afford to pay to have her brought to me.
I'm sorry, it just does not make sense. Would you buy a horse, pay for it, sight unseen, get the papers and bill of sale, then wait four months to start saying" gee, I wonder if I have been cheated?. The OP stated she had talked to her lawyer, was going to sue, etc. WHY did she not just go get the horse once the seller quit emailing her? I can see if it was across the country, but we are talking 6 hours............ ??? If she has paid for everything, has the bill of sale, had the papers, then ANY law officer would be able to go onto the farm and watch as she took possession of HER horse. She says she had full ownership, then why not go get the horse. If the first breeding didn't take, then return with the horse since she had a LFG on the stud?
Sorry, a broken ankle doesn't make you unable to ride in a car, just poses a problem with driving. So, hire a friend to drive with a trailer...... Besides, when did the OP break her ankle?
This whole thing sounds suspicious. Both sides are saying what they want to say... Both are trying to blame the other.
BUT, come on? Would any of you on this forum buy a horse and then wait over four months to go get it or make arrangements to go get it if all the money had changed hands and everything was legal? I bet not.. Especially if the seller stopped emailing and not writing or answering phone calls. I would have been driving to get my horse the second day of no contact. If the OP bought and paid for the horse and suddenly had no contact with the seller, but the horse was on the sellers property, something is wrong that the horse was not immediately picked up by the buyer.
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Yea...4 months is way,way too long. Two months was pushing it and by the end of that I was very suspicious. I was sick of excuses as to why the horse couldnt be bred. I have phone records of me calling the police then and explaining the situation. They said get a lawyer and sue or forget it.

The reason that I waited even two months is because I was waiting for the mare to be confirmed pregnant.
I had waited the first two months because she kept telling me the horse wasnt bred yet and to be patient,then she called the vet out too early,then she wasnt pregnant,then she had to get another check,etc. She also said that she had a transport that moved her horses around. She said if I wanted to wait a bit then I could get a really discounted shipping rate by using her transport. So I didnt book a transport right off. Im glad I didnt because I wouldnt have gotten a refund.
And I broke my ankle on 4/1, they missed for 19 days during which I certainly couldnt walk or do anything., then they found it so I had all that going on for the first several weeks. You can even check on my original thread when I bought the horse.

..I dont mind what anyones opinions are on this either way. The truth will be known and I have EVERY bit of proof. Jill has obviously been caught and is back tracking her words and stories.

Anyways..although it is ultimately up to mods I think this thread should probably not go on. I have no wish to speak ill of Jill. I am extremely,extremely,extremely frustrated with the whole situation,but bashing people simply isnt going to help.

I started the thread asking for advice because I really was at a loss as to what to do. Now that I have FINALLY gotten contact from the seller I should be able to get my horse so hopefully the problem is resolved.
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post #58 of 58 Old 08-08-2011, 06:49 AM
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I don't see the original post as an attempt to bash the place, but rather as a rant. I'd be mad too. Granted I'd probably not wait for 4 months, but then people look at how things should be handled differently.

With that being said, I think it's time to close the thread.

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