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post #1 of 19 Old 08-04-2011, 04:04 PM Thread Starter
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Who's horse is it now..?

Started leasing my horse last June - contract was for a 6 mo. lease. Six months has been up since December of 2010. It is now August - 8 months later.

We were planning to buy the horse until she went poof!

This girl has never asked about her horse once since I started leasing him. We had a free lease and we paid for everything. Vet, farrier, board, ect.

She just e-mailed my mom today. We're guessing she wants the money now.. but my good friend who lives in Ohio told me the horse would be ours by law if this was the case in her state. She wasn't sure about PA law.

Who's the owner??
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post #2 of 19 Old 08-04-2011, 04:09 PM
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Unless there was a written contract, you'd be hard pressed to prove you're the owner.

If you had planned to buy the horse after the lease was up, why do you think you're entitled to keep it free and clear now? After all, if you'd bought the horse, you'd have still had to pay all the expenses.

Instead of guessing about what is and isn't legal, you need to contact an attorney versed in equine law in your state.

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post #3 of 19 Old 08-04-2011, 05:31 PM
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I live in Ohio and I have never heard of any Ohio laws of what your friend is speaking about.

Everything always comes down to a contract. If there isnt one, it's anyones guess. If there was a contract outlining payment in 6 months, then you have to pay it.

Surely her email said if she was expecting payment or not?
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post #4 of 19 Old 08-04-2011, 06:02 PM
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Did you try and contact the girl about renewing your lease once it was up?

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post #5 of 19 Old 08-04-2011, 06:47 PM
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Don't try to screw someone out of their horse. Free leases normally are that the person leasing pay all the bills associated with the horse. If you want this horse buy it, if not give the young lady back her horse. Geesh that isn't rocket science. Right is right no matter how you toss it.
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post #6 of 19 Old 08-04-2011, 06:48 PM Thread Starter
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No. It was a lease with option to buy. It was solely a 6 month lease. It's now 14 months later. There was nothing stating we were obligated to pay her after the lease. It was an option. She just never asked us to do so, so we figured she was just letting us have him.

If we've taken on the responsibilities of this horse, I just don't see how it's her horse anymore. She hasn't seen him since May 2010, nor has she asked about him.
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post #7 of 19 Old 08-04-2011, 06:56 PM
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She just never asked us to do so, so we figured she was just letting us have him.
Errrr...I'm thinking that wasn't a good assumption to make. Did you not contact her after the 6 months to sort out what came next?
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post #8 of 19 Old 08-04-2011, 06:58 PM Thread Starter
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We did. We told her we wanted to buy. She replied "Great!" And that was the last we had heard from her.
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post #9 of 19 Old 08-04-2011, 06:59 PM
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She just e-mailed my mom today. We're guessing she wants the money now.. but my good friend who lives in Ohio told me the horse would be ours by law if this was the case in her state. She wasn't sure about PA law.

Who's the owner??
Again the email must have said something? Normally a lease is done with a buy out option at the end. You still didnt say if this was a written contract or verbal?
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post #10 of 19 Old 08-04-2011, 07:01 PM
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I think I would've kept following that up and not let it just drop. Especially since you were paying all those expenses.

I do think you and your mom should contact an attorney for the best advice if you think you have rights to the horse. Or settle on a price, pay it and move on. Or return the horse.
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