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    05-21-2012, 10:40 PM
who's are they really?

Soo I have a couple horses here that are supposed to be someone elses.
I feed them, yes buy the feed myself. With my money. Have receipts.
Any vet bills or whatever, I've paid. My money, my name signed on the forms.
They are on my property. The people never check on them, basically they are like my own. Everything done for/with I do.

They have like.. No receipts or anything for those horses in their name.

Soo if it came down to it...
Who's are they really.
If a problem happened and they tried to claim them or whatever. Could they ?
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    05-24-2012, 09:21 PM
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If they have a bill of sale and you don't then I imagine that they could, because the horses belong to them regardless of who pays their upkeep.

If they signed a contract with you stating that they were meant to pay a certain amount and you would feed/care for their horses then you could probably hold the horses until they pay the money, or claim ownership for owed money (although its probably a bit more complicated than that).

The best thing to do would be to get a bill of sale. Sometimes people just decide they want their horse back and will rock up and take it. One way would be to send them a letter outlining the money owed to you for their care and offer the accept the horses as payment, or ask that they pay the amount owing. If they're not that into horses they probably would just sign the papers to avoid the hassle. But this could just cause more problems if they get a lawyer to look into it and then just take their horses.
    05-24-2012, 11:58 PM
They don't have bill of sale or anything to prove they are theirs.
    05-25-2012, 12:10 AM
So basically, what you are saying is that these people own these horses but don't care for them. They are, I'm assuming, boarded on the property? Have they paid board, was there a boarding contract?

Short answer, no you can't claim them. If they came and decided to pick them up, there is nothing you could legally do to stop them.

If you are so worried about paying all the bills for these horses, then tell the owners that they need to start paying for feed/vet/farrier/etc and if they can't then they need to remove the horses from the property.
    05-25-2012, 08:56 AM
Why do you have them? You know they belong to someone else as you stated but they don't spend time with them. What kind of agreement did you have to keep their horses? They may very well still be theirs...
    05-25-2012, 10:08 AM
If you want to claim them as yours, you'll need to file a lien with the courts and claim the animals are abandoned. You'll be required to produce all receipts for feed, hay, vet, and farrier bills going back at least 24 months.

Even if you don't have a receipt for hay or the farrier, all the other receipts will prove that you've been providing care.

If you don't have a contract with these owners and don't want to go through the legalities of getting a court order pronouncing the horses as yours, then you don't have any way to prevent the owners from taking them.
    05-25-2012, 10:38 PM
Well,the owners could take them off if they want i'm not going to take someones horse from them . I was just wondering how that would work
    05-25-2012, 11:18 PM
I've always heard that legally something is considered yours in the owners haven't been out in 30 days.
    05-31-2012, 10:36 AM
Originally Posted by Britt    
I've always heard that legally something is considered yours in the owners haven't been out in 30 days.
That definitely depends upon the "something"...

A house or a car would not become 'abandoned property' after only thirty days...but a smaller, less-valuable item like a fishing pole or cookware would qualify.

A horse? I do not think the thirty day rule would apply...
    05-31-2012, 10:48 AM
Exactly what are you asking? If you want to sell them or want them off your property - talk to the absentee owners.

Do you have any type of formal agreement with them?

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