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    05-29-2011, 11:23 AM
  #1
Weanling
Are all TB's so hard when it comes to weight??

My friend's horse. She's a 4y/o ottb. When he got her she was about a body score of 2. He fed her 1:1 sweet feed and oats. 6qt's a day. She was about a 3 when I befriended him and started working with her to be more like a beginners horse(he knows NOTHING about horses, or didn't. His girlfriend convinced him to buy her..then they broke up.) So we got her on buckeye's gro n win and beet pulp. She got fat. Stopped the beet pulp when she was about a 5.5-6. Then he got tight on money and had to move her where she's on pasture.then said she was fat so he cut her back on gro n win and eventually off completely. Now she gets free choice hay..he. Changed her feed to what the pasture owners use.Something 200 he didn't know. She dropped weight quick. I just saw her yesteday after about 3 months and she's aweful. I wanted to cry because she's such a sweet girl. She's at a 1 if he's lucky..
Here's what kills me. Someone reported her and I don't blame them. He called the local vet and the vet said she's 250 lbs underweight but really healthy....he told me this and showed me the report and I wanted so badly to find that vet and lay into him! He reccommends grain, free choice hay and worming every 6 weeks. UMMM she already gets free choice hay, grain 3x a day and wormed every 8 weeks!
He asked me what to do I said put her back on gro n win. If she was fat before then it must have worked.
My question is, are all TB's that way? Some feeds work great some don't do anything at all?
I didn't get to look at the feed bag to see what it is but I'm assuming its high in corn and sugars..so my thought was she's a tb, she blinks and burns 1000 calories. This something 200 feed maybe has high starch sugar content so she burns it very quickly. Where as the gro n win is higher in protien and idk vitamins/minerals.. So. Even though she gets 1.5 lbs of gro n win she gains but the 9lbs of whatever feed she burns right through and loses weight.
Does that sound valid? I'm worried she won't live if she doesn't gain quickly..I don't want him to lose her because he absolutely loves her. But I'm more concerned in her well being
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    05-29-2011, 10:55 PM
  #2
Banned
Our 6 yr. Old OTTB when we bought him. Body condition score: middle 2



8 months later with only daily 1 hour grazing and the rest of the time on DRY LOT:



Video of him NOW:
I'm sure not ALL TBs are hard keepers.... though a good percentage do seem to have trouble holding a decent weight......

I have found that with our TB, he holds his weight very very well....of course he is on a specialized diet that we devised after MONTHS of trial and error.

So, even though he is pudgy for a TB, it is only because he is on a specialized feeding regimen. AMAZINGLY, he gained weight with this feeding regimen while on DRY LOT!!!

The feeding regimen that worked for him is : free choice hay, 1 hour grazing daily, a probiotic supplement, 1 lb. Alfalfa cubes, 2.5 lbs Strategy, and 2 scoops of Cool Calories.

We recently moved our horses to a lovely farm up in the mountains, his diet remains the same except that he and Epona get 5 hours of daily grazing (the rest of the time spent on dry lot)

He even held his weight exceptionally well through the cold mountain winter. Now, with the increase in grazing time, I hope he doesn't plump up too much more.... his weight is fine where it is.
     
    05-29-2011, 11:02 PM
  #3
Banned
I don't know too much about feed, so I will leave that for those who do.

But as much time as possible out in a field of grass will help tremendously.

As far as TBs, I have one of the slender ones, and I battle to keep him in good weight. But there are the chunkier TBs too, so it is not breed specific. Although the majority are slender and deemed as being harder keepers. But as weight loss happens, it should be noticed and changes made to their keep.
     
    05-29-2011, 11:12 PM
  #4
Weanling
I have four tb's. One easy keeper, grass/ hay with simple grain and beet pulp. One on the same diet as the first, just a little bit more. The other two are harder keepers. I use beet pulp and rice bran to help keep the weight up. I will say they do require more than my two arabs or appys do. Those guys just look at grass and start expanding.
     
    05-30-2011, 09:39 AM
  #5
Weanling
That's how my paint gelding is with looking at grass and expanding :)
This little girl..her owner has a hard time affording feed so I'm having him give me whatever he's paying the pasture owners for grain(I think like $15) and I'm going to cover the rest on the one stipulation he keeps her on the feed regimin I craft together.
She did really well on the got was 1.5 lbs gro n win and she plumped up amazingly. She's lazy and I'm afraid its from poor nutrition..
I think we'll start with gro n win and a probiotic. I've been looking around at fat supplements..
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    05-30-2011, 11:28 AM
  #6
Cat
Green Broke
Many times its not just getting the calories in them, but the quality of those calories. I would suspect with how muscular TBs tend to be combined with their high metabolisms that their diet needs to be a bit heavier on quality protein and fats than other breeds out there and probably not so much starch/sugar. Alfalfa and corn oil would probably even be a decent alternative to oats & sweet feed.
     
    05-30-2011, 03:23 PM
  #7
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Cat    
Many times its not just getting the calories in them, but the quality of those calories. I would suspect with how muscular TBs tend to be combined with their high metabolisms that their diet needs to be a bit heavier on quality protein and fats than other breeds out there and probably not so much starch/sugar. Alfalfa and corn oil would probably even be a decent alternative to oats & sweet feed.
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She's obviously the skinny bay. I've talked to her owner, he said let him know the cost and he'll make it happen.
Btw, THANK YOU! That was my thinking. High protien and fat not startch and sugar will be the key for her to be healthy.
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    05-30-2011, 04:38 PM
  #8
Cat
Green Broke
Oh wow - that is past just being thin. After seeing those pics I would be concerned about more than it just being nutrition. When was the last time her teeth were checked? If it has been a while you might want to soak her feed until they can be checked by the vet. I would also want blood work and a check for ulcers done. Something is going on there and its more than just being a TB. Soaked alfalfa could help with both a teeth issue (mushy so easier to eat) and potential ulcers (higher calcium helps neutralize stomach acid - sorta like us eating tums) but they would just be temporary help until the underlining condition is taken care of.

Hope you and your friend can get it figured out.
     
    05-31-2011, 12:36 AM
  #9
Foal
Oh my God, something is seriously wrong, if he doesn't want to deal with the hassle, how much does he want for her, I'm not joking, I can have a horse trailer their by the end of the week. That horse needs groceries, probably a few rounds of de-wormer, teeth floating and a controlled environment, pasture with tons of grass.
     
    05-31-2011, 01:00 AM
  #10
Banned
She is not just skinny, she is on her way to death. Well on the way to it.


I have to wonder if you are a troll, and as such I am reporting your posts, you ask about feed for a starved horse, and you ask about an eye injury and don't respond to that thread, even though you are online and posting.
     

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