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post #11 of 17 Old 07-11-2013, 12:08 PM
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The combo wouldn't cover his need for a multi or the extra magnesium in Quiessence, so only combines joint and Omega supplements. I think it comes out the same, but you get a free hoof+digestive supplement, which is nice. One thing that might save you, I found that my horses were really only deficient in selenium and vitamin E, so instead of Quiessence+Smartvites, I started feeding a Mg+Se+E supplement, which was a lot cheaper. Then there's more money left to spend on joint supplements. If you can't afford the full joint supplement, MSM is better than none at all, too.

I wouldn't refrigerate rice bran oil--it hardens.

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post #12 of 17 Old 07-11-2013, 12:10 PM
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Oh no I ment the combo plus the quiessence. I would have to look at the comparison chart to see what vitamins you wouldn't get getting but usually in the joint, hoof and coat supp you get most vitamins you need.
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post #13 of 17 Old 07-11-2013, 12:24 PM
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That might be true. I thought other supplements might have something to do with my horses coming up short only on vitamin E and selenium.

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I really don't want to put him on the combo because he doesn't need the hoof support, and the SmartOmega 3 isn't just a coat supplement. It's more of a wellness supplement, especially for horses with limited to no pasture access. Also, it has probiotics and prebiotics in it which eliminates the need for the digestive supplement in te combo. I do want to put him on the MSM, because its good for joints and other things, but I am also one who is a little bit skeptical about feed through joint supplements, so he's on the polyglycan. The combo does not cover the vitamins or th magnesium, so yeah... Haha

Ok, so, I know that my gelding like the taste of rice bran oil, so to make sure he eats the powder supplement, is there any harm in top dressing his grain with a little bit of rice bran oil to stick the powder and make it yummy?
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post #15 of 17 Old 07-11-2013, 12:32 PM
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No, I always use oil for powders with my chronic laminitic mare. She can't have molasses or corn syrup, and I need the powders to stick. Otherwise, you could soak some feed so that it's wet, but there's nothing wrong with a little oil, as long as you aren't pouring a whole bottle on there or anything. A high omega 3 oil might help more, so avoid corn oil, and stuff like that.

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post #16 of 17 Old 07-11-2013, 03:08 PM
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Id change feeds or add a good ration balancer. This one isnt providing what he needs. If he doesnt need alot of calories, why isnt he just on a ration balancer like Triple Crowns 30% supplement? 3 lbs of high fiber feed isnt giving him must extra.

I don't know much about blue seal, but with triple crown, you can use the 30% and, say, the senior feed together if you dont need to feed the recommended amount of the senior. The supplement makes up the nutritional difference. I just percentage it out. Add in Flax or omegas and voila. Done. Simple feed and it covers everything and complements our grass hay well.

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post #17 of 17 Old 07-11-2013, 10:05 PM
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I'm familiar with trotter. I fed it for years and years until a few years ago when my horses stopped looking so good on it. I don't think it was the feed but advanced old age that made me change. I actually have a bag of it here now because I got the blank stare of non comprehension when I went to the feed store and a new girl was working. I had to get to work so I just grabbed a bag of trotter to hold me.
Trotter is nearly half hay and other fiber. It's actually pretty low carb for a feed that's been around for ages. You can even use it on seniors that can't chew hay.
You are eventing with Xander. Means he does get a good and regular workouts. TB but not a huge one, correct?

My old QH remained high speed until the day he died at 36 yrs old. He needed more than trotter could provide. Once I added a ration balancer and some alfalfa pellets to his usual trotter he bloomed into a younger looking horse again. He did not however last long enough to see the diet change completely through. The other horse on the same change is still going strong at 38 yrs but she's a small pony and has been retired for years. Still very often see her gallop across the field for no other reason than she can.

I don't use trotter much anymore because the old pony has a few IR issues and I keep her carbs as low as I possibly can.

I use a little pelleted rice bran to add fat to the diet of my one that needs it. I'd use flax if I could find it but I get that look again when I ask for it. Since mine aren't ridden that hard the cup of rice bran pellets works fine.
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