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    01-11-2012, 11:42 PM
I don't know if this helps you, but last year about this time my mare became very spooky and girthy when I saddled her. I thought ulcers, but my vet said she'd be worse when I rode her and she wasn't acting up when I was riding. We did a fecal count and she had a high worm count. He told me to use ivermectin once a week for a month and start her on a daily wormer. It worked with her nervousness and girthyness. Some horses are more prone to worm burden even if they are wormed every 2 months. Ask your vet if that could be the cause?
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    01-11-2012, 11:42 PM
Hobbyhorse thanks for the advice that's exactly what i'm going to do!
    01-13-2012, 02:53 PM
I don't know but it seem common. I switched my boy to enrich 12 and got the same results you did. A very hyper horse. So back to strategy I go.
    01-13-2012, 08:20 PM
Tblover thanks for your reply. I've taken her off the 32 and she's only getting beet pulp and hating life. I'm amazed that that little 3/4 lb of 32 was so noticeable in the 4 lbs wet bp! Haven't had a chance to work with her any because of weather and work but I'm giving a week on the bp and hay to see if there's a difference. She seems to have mild anxiety, yawning alot yesterday evening after turnout all day and some head nodding.
    01-14-2012, 08:56 AM
Green Broke
=adl2kdl2;1307338]Tblover thanks for your reply. I've taken her off the 32 and she's only getting beet pulp and hating life. I'm amazed that that little 3/4 lb of 32 was so noticeable in the 4 lbs wet bp! Haven't had a chance to work with her any because of weather and work but I'm giving a week on the bp and hay to see if there's a difference.

She seems to have mild anxiety, yawning alot yesterday evening after turnout all day and some head nodding. Did I mention insulin resistance anywhere on this thread? I can't remember and no time to search at the moment.

I have two metabolic horses; I can say these are indicators of metabolic issues. 13 is not too young

The 16 yr old gets nippy and will yawn when he has insulin spikes.

The 24 yr old developed anxiety and this my horse that has worn a "No Fear" T-shirt all his life. I don't know too many horses who would literally go "hoof-to-hoof" with a really P.O.'d male llama and back the llama down. Now he can't handle high winds and freezing rain - he asked to come in the barn the other day and was even wearing his winter coat

Drawing blood on your mare might be the best idea at this point.
    01-15-2012, 08:26 PM
Thanks for your reply, I thought about that same issue but she has none of the symptoms so I'm first trying the no grain way, kept the beet pulp and hay but nothing else. Have a vit/min supplement to give her but I'm waiting a few days on just the hay and beet pulp so I can better see how she reacts and then add things in gradually. I also purchased B1 because I understand that that helps with anxiousness. Just want the best for her most people think just let her be but she just doesn't seem settled.
    01-16-2012, 04:01 PM
In general Enrich 32 is never known to make a horse hyper, it is extremely low in starch (an avg of 3.6%, NSC avg of 11%) and you feed so very little of it that the impact is not huge. There is no corn in it and very little grain but if your horse has an aversion to certain ingredients (soybean was mentioned) then that would be a different story although if a horse has a sensitivity or allergy to soybean I usually don't see that come through as a hyperness problem... Anyway another product you could try if this isn't working for you and/or if you decide to cut out the beet pulp is Wellsolve. That product is totally grain free, but maybe see what you come up with first. Also a good vitamin/mineral supplement can work with hay/forage like Free Balance Mineral if your horse can get enough calories to maintain it's weight from the forage and if you can get your horse to consume the mineral...block form would be best in your situation I would think.
    01-16-2012, 07:43 PM
HollyF thanks for your reply, I'm just so unsure about what's going on with her today was her worst-actually tried to charge me when I was lunging her-just not like her-totally unfocused on me supersensitive to her surroundings. Hay is the same, no grain just the beet pulp, maybe she's sensitive to it. Maybe I should try timothy pellets, apparently it wasn't the strategy or the enrich 32 because she's been off them about 3-4 days. But then maybe it's me and I'm not assertive enough to be a horse owner and she has my number.
    01-17-2012, 08:35 AM
Green Broke
It sounds like it might be vet time, if your checkbook can afford the tests.

Since this is a mare, there may be something completely different going on, that needs put back in balance

I'm of no help since it's been more than 20 years that a mare has been in my pasture -- except to say I think a vet should look at her
    01-17-2012, 08:18 PM
Walkinthewalk, thanks for sticking with me your advice. I'm sure you're right. Hate to think of the cost. I included her vit/min and b1 today which she didn't finish so I put it out in her paddock with her and she ended eating it all at sometime and then this afternoon I just spent time walking around with her in the paddock giving her apples and carrots and timothy pellets and even though it was crazy windy she was calm. I heard about this lady who does kinseology testing in Texas and she wil do the test and send you a read out of what the test brings up and her recommendations to correct thought I might try that. I had read several post on other forums of people who had done it and followed her advice and their horses improved immensely. Might be interesting.

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