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    07-02-2012, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by kait18    
i already have him on a toothless senior feed :( along with some fattier feeds watered down with the beet pulp. Its a soggy soup... looks disgusting but it is so funny to watch him slurp it all down and then looks at you like momma that was so good :p

It just nothing atm is helping him gain the weight. He has gained about 70lbs since I bought him at the auction but he is still a good 2-300lbs under weight. And its just depressing me :(
Although I'm pretty sure you probably tried them, but what about weight gainer or support suppliments mixed into his "milkshake slurry"?
There has to be one made from uber healthy fats and oils with all the vitamins and minerals included that could be just blended in. Maybe it could be the boost he needs with his lack of chewablity to break down the foods to fully absorb the nutrients.
     
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    07-02-2012, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Lockwood    
Although I'm pretty sure you probably tried them, but what about weight gainer or support suppliments mixed into his "milkshake slurry"?
There has to be one made from uber healthy fats and oils with all the vitamins and minerals included that could be just blended in. Maybe it could be the boost he needs with his lack of chewablity to break down the foods to fully absorb the nutrients.
i have tried a few... do you have any reccommendations.

I have tried so far...
SUCCEED
SMARTGAIN 4
COCOSOYA ULTRA
SMART DIGEST
GLEAM AND GAIN SUPREME 60
FAT CAT
COOL CALORIES
WEIGHT BUILDER - this helped a bit
HARD KEEPER SOLUTION - this helped a bit
FOCUS WT
ULTRA ELITE WEIGHT
MASS

Any other helpful suggestions I am willing to try. Will try anything at this point just want to see weight on this guy.

The weight builder and hard keeper worked and even used them together at one point during hte winter because he started to really use...but since the grass came in they are not helping all that much
     
    07-02-2012, 06:16 PM
  #13
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That is quite a list. Sorry I havenít read about this horse before and have a tendency to blurt out what I am thinking.

The weight bulder and the hard keeper solutions are the ones I would have suggested to try along with extra vitamins and minerals.
Perhaps there is some key micro/macro mineral missing to help him better absorb the calories that he does take in.

Quite a few years ago my momís horse had a stroke at 22 (vet thought it was a stroke) and one side of his face didnít work very well for nearly a year. Keeping his weight up was really hard.
We used the above mentioned supplements, but I also added an over-all super duper vitamin and mineral formula (forget which one, but ordered it from ValleyVet) along with Source Senior (or just organic kelp) for even more micro-nutrients.

Like you, she was feeding a slurry of senior feeds, beet pulp, oils, cider vinegar and weight gainer supps, but after we added all the extra vitamins and minerals, there seemed to be a better slow and steady weight gain.

She also would mow a section of pasture for him, then re-mow it and re-mow it to bits, until he didnít have to chew it hardly at all. Then she either fed it right to him, or put it out to dry in the sun, like hay, then stored it kinda like hay. She made sure he had some in a tub/big bucket available to munch on all the time. But he had other health issues and was not on pasture at the time either.
If your guy is on pasture, maybe he is getting just enough to satisfy him mentally, but not able to chew and graze enough physically for his body.

I dunno if that helpedÖ Iíll keep pondering, it has been quite a while since we did this for her horse and I canít remember very much right now.

Aside from his (momĎs horse) very specific heath issues, the vet would often say he was the healthiest sick horse he ever saw. I want to say it had something to do with getting every other part of him healthy and adding all the vitamins, minerals, and micro supplements that helped him to better absorb what actual nutrition and calories we were able to get into him.
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    07-02-2012, 08:36 PM
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Rice bran -21 - 22% fat. Will mix right in with the mush. Doesn't make them hot either.
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    07-03-2012, 11:41 AM
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Will try thanks guys :)
     

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