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post #21 of 27 Old 01-08-2012, 05:22 AM
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I think it's excellent you are attempting to give this horse the best feed possible and I do hope the owners realise they are doing it wrong!

Purely off topic, but - why don't some barns offer self-care?

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post #22 of 27 Old 01-08-2012, 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ChingazMyBoy View Post
I think it's excellent you are attempting to give this horse the best feed possible and I do hope the owners realise they are doing it wrong!

Purely off topic, but - why don't some barns offer self-care?
I have a barn & I don't offer self care. This will be a good topic of conversation. I'll start a thread about it.
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post #23 of 27 Old 01-08-2012, 06:34 AM
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You are going to have to get firm with these people. Lay down the rules, make up a diet plan contract, and have them sign it. That way they are unable to come in and demand you to change the horses diet on a whim. I would also address the whole 1/2 pound of treats a day with the owner. If the owner does not comply with your barn rules on feeding, then the horse needs to be moved. It is your reputation at stake, and you don't want your boarders to start walking on you. It is your barn, you are taking care of the horse, and you know in general what the horse needs to maintain a healthy weight (especially since the vet agreed with you). Could you have the vet put their opinions on the horse in writing and also recommend a feeding plan in writing? IDK- just some ideas, but I certainly would not allow that horse to stay under the current conditions.
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post #24 of 27 Old 01-08-2012, 06:51 AM
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Some members suggested feeding the horse behind the owner's back - not according to their wishes. That is a dangerous suggestion. I can see the horse getting healthy, misbehaving, the owner getting hurt, and suing the BO for not following instructions and being the cause of the accident.

It doesn't matter if they win or loose - who has the time, money, reputation at stake?

I would ask them to leave.
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post #25 of 27 Old 01-08-2012, 08:02 PM
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I would go to them and be straight up honest. Tell them that their horse has a TRAINING issue that will NOT be fixed by insufficient nutrition, and that the amount of treats given is unhealthy and will not replace grain. Tell them that you will ask them to leave if you cannot come to some agreement on proper nutrition for the horse to keep it at an acceptable weight, because when people see their horse underweight, that reflects badly on your barn. Tell them if they don't believe you, to have a vet out with both you and them present and have the vet recommend the feed plan for the horse and as nicely as you can try to have the vet explain that they CANNOT starve their horse into obedience.

I've had some issues with barns refusing to listen to me about Amber's feed. I think owners DO have a right to say what exactly their horse does and does not get, and when and how they think it needs adjusting, but I think that right is lost when the welfare of the horse is at stake.

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post #26 of 27 Old 01-13-2012, 04:43 PM
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You might consider reworking your contract to cover this type of situation. My mom is technically the BO on our contiguous property but I write all of our contracts, notices, and forms. Sometimes we deal with the novice horse person and our contract explains some of why we do what we do because it helps them understand our philosophy and intent regarding horse care.

Whenever we add an addendum to the contract and send them out for signature, I always post a general notice at the tack room so people know it's general and not specifically targeting one person.

If I was dealing with this issue, even though it appears to be at least temporarily resolved, I would add an addendum to the contract regarding choice of feed. I would include (if you feel this should be added, I may add it to mine now...we haven't dealt with this issue yet) that a written statement from a veterinarian may be required if a deviation from the facilty's feeding program may, in the opinion of BO, be or become a detriment to the horse's nutritional or emotional well being.
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post #27 of 27 Old 01-13-2012, 04:56 PM
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Unfortanetly the horse is their property and as much as you can advise them, if they don't want to listen itis their horse, and I would definately not feed it more behind their backs.

You can either go with it, or else let them know you are not happy with the situation and would rather they moved on. Personally I would tell them I won't have horses in a bad state in my yard as it casts a shadow over my ability to care for horses, so either they let me see to the horse's care or move along somewhere else that might better suit them.

I keep my horse at a yard on a DIY/self care basis. It is very common over here to do DIY livery.
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