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post #31 of 44 Old 10-25-2011, 07:58 AM
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Can you show me where it is proven detrimental, please?
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Sorry, couldn't find it. :( I usually send researches like that to myself, but I wonder if it was lost when my account crashed (as I said it was couple years since I read it). I was kinda surprised when I read about it in 1st place (basically the article said if you use valerian for long time the horse may develop the ulcers), but it is what it is. After reading it I just switched to Vervain instead.

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post #32 of 44 Old 10-25-2011, 09:01 AM
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Huh, ok thanks.
I will look into it further, I don't want to make him get ulcers. :(

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Huh, ok thanks.
I will look into it further, I don't want to make him get ulcers. :(
To be honest with you I googled after I failed to find it in my mail folders, and I couldn't find anything on stomach issues in long run. So at this time I wonder if it wasn't proved or something (and was taken off the Internet). If you'll be able to dig out something, could you, please, share. :)

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Sure, I will keep searching as well. :)
I thought I vaguely remember something about it affecting kidney, but I don't remember stomach.

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post #35 of 44 Old 10-25-2011, 12:02 PM
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I didn't read through all the posts, but what your horse needs is exercise, not a calming supplement! It's surprising what some consistent exercise will accomplish.

Really, I think it's sad people feel they need to "calm" their horses, when what they really need to do is get them out and work them. Ride some hills, trot, canter, go on a trail ride for 5 hours. Those are the types of things that calm horses.

I've owned two Arabians and a fiesty Fox Trotter and I never lunge. I just hop and and RIDE. Don't hold them back, let them burn energy under YOUR terms. I do all my faster gaits on the way out (away from home) and ask them to walk coming home. If you burn enough energy they will learn to conserve it.

I think it was Clinton Anderson that said his horses are nice and calm because they don't know when he climbs on them if he is getting off at 7:30 AM or PM. So they have learned to conserve energy.

It's like dog breeds. Some dogs are not good for apartments. Arabians are like that. They were bred to have endurance and a lot of go. It's what makes the breed excel as trail and endurance mounts. It makes me sad to think people want to "calm" them. Calm comes from mileage.

Riding riding and more riding will calm the horse.
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post #36 of 44 Old 10-25-2011, 12:14 PM
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It is really helpful when people make comments after admitting to not reading the posts.

Thanks for condescending!

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It is really helpful when people make comments after admitting to not reading the posts.

Thanks for condescending!
My reply was in response to the original post by Idlepastures. I didn't have time this morning to go through and read all 3 pages, so my reply was strictly a response to the original post. I didn't see your earlier posts, so nothing I said was about you (unless the shoe fits?).

I still stand behind what I wrote. If I had to give my horses calming supplements (because I only would if I considered them dangerous) then I think I would get rid of those horses. If they are not dangerous, then they need more exercise and/or training, not a calming supplement.

Maybe people feed calming supplements when they are over horsed? I don't know. I know I HAVE been over horsed and it was totally my fault because I didn't check the horses out (they came as a pair) more thoroughly before I bought them. Stuff like that happens before we get older and wiser.

I just think calming supplements are either a) snake oil or b) masking the real problem, which is a lack of exercise and/or training in the horse.
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I fail to see how my mare's anxiety (which I mentioned was the cause of her ulcers in a previoud post) is caused by a lack of exercise. I can handle her without SmartCalm and did all summer, but she is on it for her own health rather than my lack of ability.
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Okay guys here's the deal.

I never meant the tone to be condescending. Sorry if it came off that way. Maybe it was frank, but I didn't mean for it to be rude. It wasn't my aim to get everyone all upset.

What I basically read was the OP's horse was great except for the "go-go-go." So I gave my opinion on that. I didn't mean to irritate folks.

I still don't think that plain old "go-go-go" is a call for a calming supplement. But if your horse has other health and anxiety problems, then maybe it's best for their well being.

Let's call a truce.

And I really hope I never have a horse that I need to use a calming supplement on. Those are words I would rather not eat.
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post #40 of 44 Old 10-28-2011, 08:25 AM
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Don't know if you feed grain or not. My Arab cross mare was cuckoo go go go when we acquired her. We stopped feeding her oats and she is so much calmer. It was night and day! We also give her probiotics and she has a much better attitude now. What do you feed? Sometimes food or allergies can cause equine anxiety. We use Quietex when we travel as she gets the runs otherwise. She's not comfortable in the trailer and it helps calm her belly. I think she gets a little motion sick.
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