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post #1 of 7 Old 04-06-2013, 07:00 PM Thread Starter
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Can someone help me read this?

I am looking for a nutritious grain for my 14 y/o 16hh Paint gelding.
This summer we will be doing some fun WP shows and Halter class, and also a lot of trail riding.
I will be riding about 5 times a week (Probably between 30 mins. To an hour on days I ride) He will be out on pasture, and have a couple slabs of hay at night.
And I was looking at this grain for him. I just want to make sure he is eating enough and has the right nutrition because he is getting older, I want him to be healthy as long as possible.
http://www.admani.com/horse/Products...%20%20feed.htm
Can you tell me if this is a good grain?
And has any one used it? I know a girl at my barn uses senior glo, and her gelding is just lovely and shiny.

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post #2 of 7 Old 04-06-2013, 07:04 PM Thread Starter
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And just because he is cute, this is Gavyn
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post #3 of 7 Old 04-06-2013, 07:07 PM
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ADM makes wonderful feeds. But it doesn't look like your horse needs any feed on top of pasture and hay. You won't be riding him all that much. 30 min a day is hardly anything. You might want to look into a ration balancer instead so he can get all his needed vitamins and minerals.
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post #4 of 7 Old 04-08-2013, 10:40 AM
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The PrimeGlo is basically a RB. ADM makes great products. Go with the low end amount, 2#, for starters. He'll get enough extra out of that to cover any pasture deficiencies and keep him from getting too many extra calories.
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post #5 of 7 Old 04-08-2013, 11:03 PM
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Firstly, you shouldn't be feeding extra hard feed for the sake of it. While it's not the best pic for a condition critique, your horse sure doesn't look like he needs any extra calories, so barring *appropriate* nutritional supp to balance the pasture/hay he's on, I wouldn't be thinking of feeding extra.

Grain isn't a very nutritious feed(apart from generally high in phosphorus) and comes with other potential probs, so I generally think there are better options, for nutrition or otherwise.

I'd personally be feeding nothing but a nutritional supp, in as low a dose as possible, to avoid extra calories. You can find palatable powdered supps, or if you choose a pelleted form, something like KER Gold only needs to be fed at approx 70gms (approx one double handful) daily. I think the 'SmartPak' products seem generally good & low dose too, but they're not available over here, so only know what I've seen online.

Afraid I found the info on that product link a little confusing - talks about different prods than the one in question, the 'estimated sugar/starch' link gives info on a different product... can't find ingreds list for that particular one. It appears to be a 'ration balancer' type feed, but seems to be a highish energy/fat product that's fed in substantial quantity. Therefore, assuming the nutritional balance is appropriate for a specific horse's diet & they need extra energy/calories, then it may be OK.

Can't comment on nutritional balance - you need to do a pasture/hay analysis, or at least consult someone who is familiar with your local pasture/soil, to give you an idea on what's in it, in order to work out the most appropriate supps for your horse. Eg. Iron, calcium & sodium are commonly way high in many soil types/pastures, so you would be therefore looking for supps that don't have these minerals added, and as excesses upset the availability/balance of other minerals, you'd want to avoid feeds high in these minerals(eg. Alfalfa is very high in calcium, among others) & ensure the horse had adequate magnesium & so on. Despite company advertising, there is never a 'one size fits all' product.
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I am going to recommend you provide the hay in the morning to give him an alternative to the high sugar grasses. Cool nights and warm days mean the sugar content rises in the grass. My horses will turn to the hay as long as they are not forced to eat the grass. I also recommend giving him a senior feed which provides extra oils, beet pulp, probiotics, etc. Start at 2lb, 2x daily. You can always feed more if needed. Be sure to provide loose salt, not just a lick. It has been proven horses do not get adequate salt from a lick as it makes the tongue sore. Something to keep in mind is how much supplemental feed a horse might utilize and how much makes expensive poop.
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post #7 of 7 Old 04-09-2013, 05:26 AM
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Saddlebag, unfortunately grass doesn't lose sugars after cutting/drying, and also excepting frosty nights(when it shuts down), grass will be lowest in sugar in the early morning, as sugars build with photosynthesis/sunlight and are used to grow over night. So it depends on type of grass, weather & time of cutting, but hay is not necessarily any lower in sugars than grass.
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