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    06-07-2010, 08:23 AM
  #1
Yearling
Cant put on weight!

I have a 15.5hh anglo-arab mare who is 9years old. She is out 24-7 in a lush paddock with one other horse. She went out in April for the first time as due to extreme weather conditions over winter nothing could be out. However such a bad summer last year meant that hay quality and quantity was down. So from November to April she was on "just enough". She is a hard doer anyway so this didnt help the situation.
Now she is out full time I just can't get the weight back on her she has poverty lines on her bum, Ribby etc. She is getting a grass belly but its staying there she is not gaining noticeable amount of weight elsewhere!
She gets ridden 6 times a week for 1hour+ then gets a scoop of non-heating cool and cooked coarse mix.

I only just gave her a 5day worm dose of parazone at 3.75mls for every 100kg of weight.
I will weigh her today and get pictures when I come back in.
IS there anything else I could be doing to encourage the weight gain?? She is quite a hot mare so we try to keep feeds to a minimum.

She is in a non stressful environment I make sure of that but could she possibly have ulcers? How do you know if you have ulcers present also?

Thanks for any advice!
     
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    06-07-2010, 10:10 AM
  #2
Showing
The only way to really know if she has ulcers, is to have a vet check for them.

If she's a hard keeper you might try beet pulp, or a complete feed. She won't need a ton of it, but to start she may need more than what you're currently giving her.

My TB came home thin, and I've been giving him a complete feed with beet pulp pellets added. That regimen has done wonders for him, and he's now ready to go back to the trainer's for this final 2 months.
     
    06-07-2010, 11:04 AM
  #3
Yearling
O right ok there is no obvious outward signs so no?

I will try pick up beetpulp at my local feed store today. I read on this somewhere you no longer have to mix beetpulp with water you can feed it dry?
Does this mean say if I was to give her one scoop wet id give the same dry? My horses have never been on beetpulp excuse the stupid questions!!

Is coarse mix not a complete feed though? I might try adding a salt lick to her paddock as well.
     
    06-07-2010, 11:08 AM
  #4
Weanling
I've have never seen beetpulp that could be fed dry :S Maybe it's possible in some places but if I were to feed beetplulp dry it would expand in the horses throat causing their air to be blocked off. Beetpulp is a good filler but I would suggest seeing if there is a more underlying condition which could be preventing her to gaining weight . High fat High fiber is a great feed and it doesnt make them very hot at all but is great for putting weight on them . High fat high fiber is a commonly used feed for young growing horses !

Good luck
     
    06-07-2010, 11:12 AM
  #5
Showing
There are outward signs that can lead you to suspect she has ulcers, but only a vet can give you a proper diagnosis.

I feed the beet pulp pellets, and he gets them dry. They're pelleted, so are only a little bit bigger than regular pelleted feed. He eats them just fine.

If you're going to feed it wet, you need to measure out dry how much you plan to feed her, then wet it down. Once it's expanded, drain off the excess water and give it to her.

A coarse feed is just that, coarse. Doesn't mean it's complete.

Blue Seal Charger doesn't indicate that it's a complete feed, but it's close based on the ingredients. It has beet pulp, rice bran, flaxseed, vegetable oil and coarsely ground corn as well as extruded protein nuggets.

I've had trouble finding Triple Crown Complete, and Charger is a decent substitute. It's also about 4 dollars cheaper a bag than TC Complete, so I save some money.
     
    06-07-2010, 11:14 AM
  #6
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Speed Racer    
There are outward signs that can lead you to suspect she has ulcers, but only a vet can give you a proper diagnosis.

I feed the beet pulp pellets, and he gets them dry. They're pelleted, so are only a little bit bigger than regular pelleted feed. He eats them just fine.

If you're going to feed it wet, you need to measure out dry how much you plan to feed her, then wet it down. Once it's expanded, drain off the excess water and give it to her.

A coarse feed is just that, coarse. Doesn't mean it's complete.

Blue Seal Charger doesn't indicate that it's a complete feed, but it's close based on the ingredients. It has beet pulp, rice bran, flaxseed, vegetable oil and coarsely ground corn as well as extruded protein nuggets.

I've had trouble finding Triple Crown Complete, and Charger is a decent substitute. It's also about 4 dollars cheaper a bag than TC Complete, so I save some money.

I love this site , there is always something new to learn . I had no idea there was beetpulp out there that could be fed dry . I seen pellet beetpulp and have fed it but ALWAYS added water for it to expand.
     
    06-07-2010, 11:16 AM
  #7
Yearling
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Originally Posted by AfterParty    
I were to feed beetplulp dry it would expand in the horses throat causing their air to be blocked off.

No, it wouldn't. This is a common misconception, so let's lay it to rest. There is a very powerful sphincter leading into the stomach to prevent this. That is the same reason that horses cannot vomit or burp. The reason not to feed beet pulp dry is for fear of choke (which is almost never a life threatening situation). Many complete feeds include beet pulp which is dry and need not be soaked.
     
    06-07-2010, 11:19 AM
  #8
Weanling
Actually I've had it happen to me so its not a common misconception . I had a 12 hh black pony mare that a friend put into a stall that had dry beetpulp in it , She was starting to gulp for air and would not drink and barely wanted to walk. She was very nervous . We called the vet and the vet came they put a tube down her throat with a funnel at the top and poured water down and the way it worked was it push the beetpulp but up threw the tube . Following this inncident she coughed for a few days after , but she was fine .

It happens be careful.
     
    06-07-2010, 11:28 AM
  #9
Showing
AfterParty, generally horses who are prone to choke will be the ones for whom giving dry beet pulp isn't recommended.

All complete feeds have beet pulp shreds or pellets as their first or second ingredient, and they're dry. So if you've fed a complete feed, you've been giving your horse dry beet pulp.

Horses with no known incidents or predispositions to choke are generally fine to be fed dry beet pulp pellets or shreds.

If you prefer to wet them, that's fine. I just haven't found it to be necessary.
     
    06-07-2010, 11:31 AM
  #10
Weanling
It was a big shock to use because she has always been very good with her feed and always a healthy pony , but beetpulp was the only thing in the bucket. The vet also said it can happen but we all have our own opinions and it only takes one scare for us to stick to doing things a certain way :)
     

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