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post #1 of 10 Old 12-29-2010, 12:30 PM Thread Starter
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Concentrate Mixes? Calling all DIYers!!!

If you mix your own "grain" (and/or other concentrates), would you mind sharing your mix and the proportions? We have never done a custom mix, although the option is available to us, and is one that I am very interested in. I know lots of people do it, but I want to make sure that my horses are getting adequate nutrition to maintain them.

I can't help but feel that there is an alternate option out there that is more nutritious for our horses, and that is as cost effective for budget oriented boarders (and us, of course). I am just curious what you do-it-yourselfers mix (or have your elevators mix)?
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post #2 of 10 Old 12-29-2010, 02:17 PM
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I don't custom mix ... I do a ration balancer designed for my hay type and area and then add calories as needed

I have been called the NSC Nazi more then once ... I hate traditional feed methods of loading our horses up on grains and junk food :)
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post #3 of 10 Old 12-29-2010, 08:38 PM Thread Starter
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Ration balancer? What is that, exactly? Where do you get it, and how much does it cost?
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post #4 of 10 Old 12-29-2010, 08:41 PM Thread Starter
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Upon googling "What is a ration balancer for horses?" guess what came up?
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post #5 of 10 Old 12-29-2010, 09:12 PM
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ration balancer is a vitamin/mineral supplement with added protiens designed to balance your hay type

I have been called the NSC Nazi more then once ... I hate traditional feed methods of loading our horses up on grains and junk food :)
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post #6 of 10 Old 12-29-2010, 09:13 PM
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if you PM me your zip code I can help you find dealers in your area...


Average cost is $25 per 50lbs with the "average" horse needing 1 to 1 1/2lb per day

So 50 to 75 cents per day

I have been called the NSC Nazi more then once ... I hate traditional feed methods of loading our horses up on grains and junk food :)
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post #7 of 10 Old 12-29-2010, 09:19 PM
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I make my own mix, but do it in the feed room. That way each horse can get exactly what they need without worrying about not enough or too much vit/minerals. I use alfalfa pellets, chopped pre-bloom alfalfa hay, whole oats, flax meal, and a vit/min supplement.

I only use oats on two of my horses that need the extra energy and calories. The rest of my horses are either too fat for oats or oats make them hyper. Most stock horses or similar do great on oats though, as long as you work them enough to burn off the starch/sugar in them.

If I were ordering a mix from my feed mill, I would probably go with 3 parts alfalfa pellets to 1 part whole or crimped oats (by weight). Then add my vit/min mix to each feed bucket in my feed room. Alfalfa pellets provide great calories, protein, and nutrients (including Lysine, an important amino acid). Oats provide more starch based energy, vitamin C, and some protein. Together, this should equal out to about 12-13% protein. You do not need any molasses, oil, or vitamin pellet/crumble. A dry mix will store better.

I would add the vit/min mix yourself, that way your easy keepers getting less feed will have just as much nutrition as your working horses that are getting more.

I use a custom vit/min mix from Uckele Equine. It costs me about $0.44 a day per-horse, which is as affordable as I can get it while still providing high levels of everything I want/need. I have them add 10 mg of biotin for hoof/coat, high levels of amino acids for muscle development/growth (we don't have much grazing), higher Vitamin E, copper, and zinc for overall health, no Vit D since I do 24/7 turnout in the sun, and no Iron since we use well water that is high in iron. I also have them add extra Magnesium for my fatties and Iodine as it seems to help with thrush and hoof health/growth. The rest of the mix is based on my local hay analysis.

If you want an off-the-shelf mix, I would recommend Uckele's Equi-Base Grass, horsetech.com's High Point Grass, Grand Vite, or SmartPak's SmartVite Grass. All of these are complete vit/min mixes for horses that get little to no foritified feed/grain.
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post #8 of 10 Old 12-29-2010, 10:17 PM Thread Starter
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Awesome! Thanks for the ideas, guys! I am doing some serious research on the side, haha.
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post #9 of 10 Old 12-30-2010, 06:15 AM
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If you live in or near an area with farming/ranching, find the feed mill that the ranchers use. They are very knowledgeable about farm animal nutrition, typically have custom mixes for everything from easy to hard keepers, pleasure to performance horses, and are more than willing to discuss/suggest your horse's needs and show you the test results from their mixes.

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post #10 of 10 Old 12-30-2010, 08:58 AM Thread Starter
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Well - we use the only mills in the area, and they are very willing to make our own mix, but they expect us to come in with our homework done and tell them what we want exactly :/

Oh - and we don't live in a "ranching" area. The best we have are a few small cattle and pig farms where the farmers buy and sell cattle and go back and forth to auctions. They don't have the need for horses in their operations.
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