diatemacious earth , equiline, and sunflower seeds

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    04-10-2012, 11:05 PM
diatemacious earth , equiline, and sunflower seeds

I was asking the owner questions about a horse she has for sale and she told me she fed him equiline and black oil sunflower seeds and diatemacious earth daily. I am assuming the equiline is some sort of pelleted horse feed (I could be wrong) and I guess the sunflower seeds would be for a shiny coat but I have never heard of the diatemacious earth. I googled it and found that people feed it to prevent worms. How good is a diet like this? He gets free choice water and hay of course. If I buy him I would be concerned about feeding him this stuff has anyone used it? I feed my horses flax seed for a shiny coat would the black oil sunflower seeds be better? I have always wormed my horses spring and fall with one of the paste wormers should I be worming daily with this diatemacious earth stuff???
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    04-12-2012, 03:30 PM
I've used it.

I have used the diatamaceous earth (sp?) and it does work for worms. It has the added benefit of keeping flies out of the manure so you wont have any fly problems. The problem I have with it, and the reason that I eventually quit using it, is that you are rendering your horses poop to be toxic to earthworms.

Normally most barns spread the manure over the fields or sell it to folks for gardening. Once you put the DT earth into the feed your horses manure will kill earthworms. That's not good for the soil, in fact it will kill almost any soil critters and they are needed for healthy soil.
    04-12-2012, 03:41 PM
I read up on diamtamacious earth as well as spoke to my vet who was against feeding it. It isnt chemical based. Its used by abbrasion. Kinda like eating glass... its a fine sharp powder that abbrasively kills worms. But in my mind... that would also impact the entire stomach, and other organs. I took mine off it when I bought him.

    04-12-2012, 04:21 PM
Originally Posted by LetAGrlShowU    
I read up on diamtamacious earth as well as spoke to my vet who was against feeding it. It isnt chemical based. Its used by abbrasion. Kinda like eating glass... its a fine sharp powder that abbrasively kills worms. But in my mind... that would also impact the entire stomach, and other organs. I took mine off it when I bought him.

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uh I wouldn't say it's ANYTHING like eating glass..... it's a powder with MICHOSCOPIC sharp edges that cut the worms and bugs and cause their body fluid to leak out, kind of like drying them up. I never had any problem feeding it to horses. It feels like finely ground talcum powder. Very VERY soft to the touch, there is noting hard or sharp in it all all. I fed it to my TB with ulcers never had any problems.

HOWEVER the fact that it causes all the manure to be basically toxic is a big problem in my opinion. What are you going to do with 6 tons of manure a year that really can't be used for gardening? IF it were not for that I would be using it no problem. It would be a miracle because the worms can not get immune to it and it keeps the flies away too. I think it has it's uses and is good for worming especially in cases where the worms may be resistant to wormers, but the fact that it renders the manure useless is a huge concern that made me opt to go a different way.
    04-12-2012, 07:38 PM
Thanks for all the information. I think I will take him off it if I buy him. I wonder if that would make the manure toxic to birds,dogs, and other animals that might eat it or pick through it for bits of grain
    04-12-2012, 08:33 PM
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DE is and has been popular in small ruminants (alpacas, goats, sheep) for some time, as well as in birds and it does work. Some owners just sprinkle it over the manure piles and others feed it directly to the animals.

However, while it is indeed finely ground and feels soft, feeding studies are beginning to show the long term affects of the abrasiveness is causing problems in the various stomach chambers in ruminants.
Not sure how that would affect horses long term, but I am guess not very well.

I do have it around the farm, but I use in the areas that the chickens like to take dust baths in, or to dust the chicken coop as it will kill external mites.

DE is marketed to be given to birds, dogs, and all manner of farm and companion animals so I wouldn't worry about other animals picking through the manure/manure piles.

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