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    10-17-2012, 01:52 AM
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Yearling
diet for building muscle

Chey is currently 4 1/2 yo 15.2 hh and weighs just shy of 1050lbs. I just had a baby in July and I have finally got back into good enough shape and find the time to work her. She has lost over 100lbs sense I have been working her this last month and a half. She gets huge off summer grass if not kept working. She is working five days a week 2-3 hours at a time and mostly on hills. She currently get 6 lbs whole oats, 6 ounces ground flax and her source supplement. I am wanting to add alfalfa pellets but not sure of how much to help her gain muscle. I cannot throw alfalfa hay to her because she is pasture 24/7 with another mare that I cannot feed it too. I have also thought about cubes because of the long stem factor.
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    10-17-2012, 01:53 AM
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Also she has 24/7 access to a grass hay. I throw hay three times a day or more if they run out.
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    10-17-2012, 12:16 PM
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Green Broke
I think that how much alfalfa to add is something you will have experiment with.

I do know from my own experience of adding too much protein/amino acids, the urine will develop an obnoxiously strong ammonia odor.

The body dumps what it doesn't need thru the urine.

If your horse's urine starts to smell really ammonia strong and/or she starts getting hot or hyper or develops an ugly personality, she's most likely getting too much alfalfa (protein).

Keeping her re-entry work load consistent in terms of hard labor and time will also help, so you can keep her alfalfa consistent.

Meaning, don't work her to death today because you have a babysitter but can only only work her for 15 minutes tommorrow because the baby just went down for nap and that's all the time you have<----if that made any sense at all

While I didn't work my horses, all those years ago, when I had a new baby, I certainly did turn the baby monitor on, go clean stalls and even brush somebody if I didn't hear the baby stirring:) His worst "event" didn't come until he was two and old enough to be at the barn, when he got stuck in the mud by the part we had just re-vamped and his barn boots literally got sucked right off his little feet - lol lol lol lol

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    10-17-2012, 01:09 PM
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Yearling
My girls are great at nap time and at night thank god. The take good solid 3-4 hour naps during the day. If for whatever reason I miss my mares training season during the day then she has to pic it up at night after the girls are in bed. I don't get fortunate enough to have a babysitter so I have to do everything while the are asleep. I have good monitors that I can turn all the way up and if somebody does wake up no matter where I am at on the property I can hear them. As for the hotness I have never had her get hot before on anything other than omega plus or rice bran. Even then she had a ton of energy but never acted stupid.
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    10-17-2012, 02:45 PM
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Green Broke
I'd move to a more balanced diet to get better results. You're missing a good source of complete nutrition- either a fortified feed, vitamin/mineral supplement, or (my favorite) a ration balancer.
     
    10-17-2012, 02:54 PM
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Yearling
I don't want to go to a fortified because I just changed my horses diets to just whole oats, ground flax, and source supplement. They all look amazing compared to what they did six weeks ago when I switched them and now they don't have hardly any good pasture compared to six weeks ago either. Chey was fat six weeks ago. Dull coat, dry feet, really dry mane and tail. She is now at a healthy weight lacking some muscles but her coat is silky and shiny her mane and tail are growing like crazy and she had and inch of hoof growth to come off at her last showing.
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    10-17-2012, 02:55 PM
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    10-17-2012, 10:46 PM
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Green Broke
My nutritionist said that rice bran helps build muscle. Something in it that has a name that I forget and does something I don't recall.

I was like, "Whatever you say, man. But I'll try it."

My mare has never been able to gain lean muscle in her hindquarters and topline. After a couple weeks of rice bran (2.5 pounds a day for her), she was looking fabulous. She had a topline. I was shocked.

It certainly worked for me.
     
    10-17-2012, 11:53 PM
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Yearling
They only thing I worry about rice bran is last winter she was on it and she was a spitfire. She wasn't dangerous to more but more so herself. It was like she would go go go and then boom all her energy was gone. She would be drenched in sweat breathing heavily and barely able to stand. Now what kind of rice bran did you feed? Last winter I had major success with max e glow meal from tractor supply but she wouldn't eat that so I gave her southern states brand rice bran and she would over work herself. My other horses who ate the max e glo did not do this. Even the super sensitive two who can't hand any grains did not do this. Chey is an extremely picky eater. I wonder if I mix some soaked alfalfa /timothy cubes in with it if that would coax her into eating it.
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    10-18-2012, 02:11 AM
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Green Broke
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i don't want to go to a fortified because I just changed my horses diets to just whole oats, ground flax, and source supplement. They all look amazing compared to what they did six weeks ago when I switched them and now they don't have hardly any good pasture compared to six weeks ago either. Chey was fat six weeks ago. Dull coat, dry feet, really dry mane and tail. She is now at a healthy weight lacking some muscles but her coat is silky and shiny her mane and tail are growing like crazy and she had and inch of hoof growth to come off at her last showing.
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You should still consider at least adding a vitamin/mineral supplement. Oats, flax, Source... none of them have a guaranteed analysis that includes any vitamins; no copper, iron, magnesium, folic acid, selenium, etc. Unless you've had your hay/pasture tested and know that all of those are present in sufficient amounts (and I've yet to see hay/grass that has everything), odds are good that some or all are lacking.
     

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