Draft diet newbie
 
 

       The Horse Forum > Keeping and Caring for Horses > Horse Health > Horse Nutrition

Draft diet newbie

This is a discussion on Draft diet newbie within the Horse Nutrition forums, part of the Horse Health category

     
    LinkBack Thread Tools
        07-20-2012, 12:30 AM
      #1
    Foal
    Draft diet newbie

    So I am the barn manager for a mental therapy center and have take in abused/neglected/starved horses before, but this is my first time with a draft. He 10 year old percheron gelding his only problem is that he is super underweight. He old owners just had him on 3 coffee cans of grain twice a day, but before that he lost the weight by the drought last year here in TX.

    Anyways my question is how much should I give him? I have done a ton of research and talked with my vet and it looks like he will be getting soaked beet pulp mixed with Acco senior feed and Acco Safe & Sound. We are also adding corn oil to help give an extra fat boost and vinegar to help with fly. He has free range to coastal hay all day.

    I know about taking my time changing him over, but I just have no idea what the right amount should be.



    He is such a sweetheart and I just want the best for the big guy.
    Thanks!
         
    Sponsored Links
    Advertisement
     
        07-20-2012, 05:25 AM
      #2
    Trained
    Of course only got one pic to go off, but he does look like he could do with a few bikkies, but I wouldn't call that 'super underweight' at all. Looks like he's got no topline at all, so to speak, which could be due to him having been thin, but I'm concerned more about that horizontal(ish) line near the top of his ribs - the only time I've seen that is in horses who have suffered chronic pain, such as bad founders. I'd be considering getting him thoroughly checked out including a good bodyworker.

    Re feed, free choice grass hay may well be all he needs(along with a good nutritional supp). If he's been starved and been fed grain, I'd also consider giving probiotics to help him recover. Drafts do tend to be easy keepers & you also don't want to beef him up too quickly or allow him to become overweight. If he doesn't gain weight on hay, then you can think about adding other stuff & possibly treating him for ulcers. I'd avoid grain/high starch feeds as a rule. Beet pulp is one good option.
         
        07-20-2012, 12:07 PM
      #3
    Started
    I agree he doesn't look ”that” bad. He does lack muscle tone and that could be from lack of work/diet or from a condition called EPSM in drafts. A simple test for that would be to as him to swing his backend (1/2 circle) in both directions. Does anything look wonky or jerky? Or is it nice and smooth? Diagnosis is confirmed with a mucsle biopsy. With EPSM he can't properly utilize charbohyrates so a high fat diet is warranted. He could be worked up to 2# (4 cups) daily.
    Posted via Mobile Device
         
        07-20-2012, 11:27 PM
      #4
    Foal
    His EPSM test came back negative, but we will still be on the lookout. Here is a picture from this morning


    He is measured 17.2hh and his weight right now is 1203lb so I guess not super underweight, but he does need to gain more fat and muscle.
    Thank y'all for the advice :)
         
        07-21-2012, 12:34 AM
      #5
    Started
    Well that's good he doesn't have it. Were you able to get him on a scale or did you tape him? He should be in the #1600-1700 range even with his slimmer build. For helping build muscle, I like adding roasted flaked soybeans. They are high in quality protein as well as fat. Soybean meal will have the same protein but no fat.
    What's with the flared nostrils? Just hot?
    He probably has never had his mouth worked on. That's always a safe place to start. Keep in mind drafts are more sensitive to sedation than light horses and the rasps and floats need extensions to reach the last set of molars.
    Posted via Mobile Device
         
        07-21-2012, 12:54 AM
      #6
    Foal
    He went on the scale at the vets. His teeth need some work so we scheduled it for this weekend. Thanks for the tip in sedation and roasted flaked soybeans!
    The flared nostrils are just from this darn Texas heat.
         
        07-23-2012, 02:43 PM
      #7
    Foal
    When we got our horses home in January, our Thoroughbred/Clydesdale cross had that horizontal line about 4" below his protruding spine. It was awful. It has taken a good 7 months to get weight back on him but he is not rounded out with no visible bones showing.

    It's hard work and very expensive to put weight back on them, although our Draft was the first to gain all his weight back.

    I tried soaking the beet pulp and also mixing Vegetable oil in their feed. They weren't real happy with either but they ate it. They had free hay 24/7. The Draft was getting 4 scoops of feed, the Thoroughbred/Clydesdale was and is still getting 6 scoops and my QH was getting 4 scoops a day.

    Good luck.
         

    Quick Reply
    Please help keep the Horse Forum enjoyable by reporting rude posts.
    Message:
    Options

    Register Now

    In order to be able to post messages on the The Horse Forum forums, you must first register.

    Already have a Horse Forum account?
    Members are allowed only one account per person at the Horse Forum, so if you've made an account here in the past you'll need to continue using that account. Please do not create a new account or you may lose access to the Horse Forum. If you need help recovering your existing account, please Contact Us. We'll be glad to help!

    New to the Horse Forum?
    Please choose a username you will be satisfied with using for the duration of your membership at the Horse Forum. We do not change members' usernames upon request because that would make it difficult for everyone to keep track of who is who on the forum. For that reason, please do not incorporate your horse's name into your username so that you are not stuck with a username related to a horse you may no longer have some day, or use any other username you may no longer identify with or care for in the future.

    User Name:
    Password
    Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
    Password:
    Confirm Password:
    Email Address
    Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
    Email Address:

    Log-in

    Human Verification

    In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.


    Old Thread Warning
    This thread is more than 90 days old. When a thread is this old, it is often better to start a new thread rather than post to it. However, If you feel you have something of value to add to this particular thread, you can do so by checking the box below before submitting your post.

    Thread Tools

    Similar Threads
    Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
    Any Spotted Draft or Pinto Draft Owners? Let's see em! randomrider92 Draft Horses 28 04-16-2012 06:06 PM
    Diet Advice for a New Draft Owner HappyHorsey Draft Horses 8 02-10-2012 01:31 PM
    Diet critique/suggestions - draft gelding Fruitloops Horse Nutrition 2 12-06-2011 07:10 PM
    What diet is your draft on? Belgiumdream Draft Horses 9 04-24-2010 10:13 PM
    contest for all draft and draft cross owners!!!!! english_rider144 Draft Horses 1 02-03-2009 06:07 PM



    All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:02 PM.


    Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
    Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
    Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0