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    06-24-2013, 06:05 PM
  #11
Yearling
right foot and spice



Spice slimmer and more out of shape in this picture, she has more top line and belly now, but it's the best picture I got. Remember she's clean of worms, confirmed by vet.



     
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    06-24-2013, 06:07 PM
  #12
Super Moderator
The third link worked.
Oh my.....I'd be lame too. Are you treating that thrush currently?
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    06-24-2013, 06:09 PM
  #13
Yearling
Yes treating for thrush for sure, it's a bit of long story but it took a long time to find anything that was effective. At least she has frogs now. I noticed after this trim they looked weird so I told pictures so I could really look without Spice being haven't to stand still for an hour.
     
    06-24-2013, 06:21 PM
  #14
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There's still thrush....deep deep in there.
First I'd get her on a diet. Period. Her hay, weighed, in the net. And no hardfeed at all. Either a ration balancer or a vit/min supplement given in a handful of soaked hay pellets. If she's off that sugary feed, her feet will improve too.
I have to look, somewhere I have a recipe for a " goo" for thrush
     
    06-24-2013, 06:31 PM
  #15
Yearling
The goo is what I am using now, it helps just taking for ever to be gone and stay gone again, we went through everything from iodine, vinger, thrush buster, the powder stuff, foot root stuff none of it did any good, that's why it's so bad because it took a long time to figure out what was and wasn't working. She had no frog on the left front, now the right front is the worst.

She isn't on sugary feed at all right now, it's just a hay based pellet with some grains made for a all around feed, it's 12 % protein. Not the mash which is whole grains, oat based with molasses.
     
    06-24-2013, 06:32 PM
  #16
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I don't really think she looks overweight - more of a big belly that might sort itself by getting her fit and building up some muscle
More exercise especially is what she needs as she only has a small area to move around in - that would also help harden her feet and improve their health as it would increase the blood flow in them
Horses don't spend their entire day racing around but they do spend a lot of it walking around browsing and she can't do that if she doesn't have the space to allow for it so you need to compensate by giving her more work
Avoiding the sugar and starch feeds is the right way to go and you seem to be on to that now.
     
    06-24-2013, 06:41 PM
  #17
Yearling
She's in a 70 by 70 pen with trees, rocks, and a track she regularly canters around and let out to graze four to six hours a day. There is gravel, sand and yes mud in her pen, as well as a run-in in. Not my first time owning a horse, just first time with this horse, this farrier, and an easy keeper. My last mare was on senior feed plus some oil in the winter, plus flax seed and she kept trim.
     
    06-24-2013, 06:48 PM
  #18
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She has quite the crested neck.
As for sugar, I meant sugar and starch, as jaydee said. Any grain has tons of non-structural-carbohydrates, NSC's. For example, oats 54%, corn 73%, a normal mixed or pelleted feed somewhere between 20 and 45%.
You want to stay below 20, 15 being way better, best for her below 15%. All together.
Hay varies. Timothy can be anywhere between 5 and 18%, alfalfa is low with 11%
If she was trim and working hard, she could handle more NSC. Now it's better safe than sorry.
     
    06-24-2013, 08:42 PM
  #19
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Do you have a picture of her from the other side?

Definitely thrushy but nice barefeet.
     
    06-25-2013, 08:26 AM
  #20
Yearling
That's I understand both the feed now, sorry about that.
Yes Deserthorsewoman, the vet almost thinks she foundered or was obese at one point in her life which left her with a bit of a cresty neck, mind you she has a rather ugly neck, tied in low with a dip than into the crest down again to her head. She has enough muscle on the bottom of her neck it doesn't help.

Toto, no pictures of the other side not ones that are any good, her feet are better but I'm bothers me that the farrier keeps leaving her heads so uneven to correct her legs (she toes out pretty bad).

I plan to have some come lower and even out her heels soon. All the rings are from her being on different medications bute, dex and antibiotics and possible when she was on a heavy deworming program. She is great horse until you start looking at her legs to long, you see all these bumps and lumps for old injuries and windpuffs. I plan on putting her on a ration balancer soon as possible, until than she'll only be a handful of the normal feed, hopefully her feet get better and we can hit the trails again.
     

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