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post #1 of 6 Old 05-04-2012, 09:52 AM Thread Starter
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Feed Change Question

First, let me preface this with the fact that I can't modify the feed in any way other than what I am going to do here :)..the horse is on full board so things like free choice hay isn't an option.

I am about 15 weeks into a new horse, full TB, off-track, 16.2 and last taped at 1100 pounds; he has a larger bone structure such as would be seen in a Trakehner. He was about 100 pounds underweight and lacked muscle tone when I got him. He was originally on 6 quarts, about 10 poundish of feed per day with 4 flakes of hay.

When I got him hme, and over a period of four weeks, he was upped to about 5 pounds of textured feed, 5 pounds of Horsemen's Edge 100 pelleted 10:6 feed, 6 cups of Rice Bran pellets about 24 pounds worth of decent quality grass hay per day. I can't say for sure what type, whether Timothy or Bermuda as it looks to be a combination of both, but, I don't think it contains any alfalfa. He was, and is still on, a pre-and probitoic suplement, standard coat and hoof supplement and was only recently taken off of the muscle mass supplement since has has gained the weight and muscle he needed.

Now that he has done so, I want to modify things a little. I am looking at changing over the Horsemen's Edge to the Ultium Competition and taking out the straight Rice Bran pellets all together. It will increase the Protein marginally, about 2% and decrease the fat marginally, by about 1% but the Ultium does contain both beet pulp and rice bran.

The pics attached show him the day I brought him home and then 10 weeks later (about 5 weeks ago). He hasn't changed over much since the 10 week pic was taken.

Does anyone have any idea with all else remaining the same reagrading hay and textured feed, would I need to cut down the overall Ultium and textured feed (once he is completely converted) to less than the 5 pounds per day of each feed he is getting now? Some research has indicated that horses on Ultium can be fed less and get the same results as other feeds.

He is in what I guess would be referred to as medium work as he is working training level dressage training with no jumping, being ridden for an hour to an hour and a half 5-6 days a week. He is quite energetic but not specifically "hot" in attitude.
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post #2 of 6 Old 05-06-2012, 09:53 PM
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I have an easy keeper, so I don't really have any advice for you, but he looks like he is filling out nicely!

He does look like he is standing under himself with his hind legs set quite wide, so you might want to look into whether or not he has some pain or other issue going on there.
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:)...it is just the way he is standing. You can't see it in the picture but his stall is just to his right. He stands in the cross ties always angled towards his stall..and the hay therein :)

I had a bag of the Horsemen's Edge left so I mixed in a bag of the Ultium and also what was left of the Rice Bran Pellets..not much, only a couple of pounds worth. I have another bag of Ultium so once the 50/50 mixture gets down about half way, I'll mix in the second bag of Ultium to complete the changeover. By the time the 75/25 mixture is done, I should be able to swap over to the Ultium completely.

Too soon to tell the effect on his weight or coat but am hoping that the dried beet pulp and rice bran in the Ultium keeps everything leveled out. For now I have also placed him on a calming supplement, just straight B-1 pellets, until he gets a few more miles under his girth..so to speak. He's been on that for about a week now and I do see a little better focus and his energy level hasn't gone down any.

We have our first away show this weekend...will see how THAT goes :)

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by any chance have you considered the Strategy Healthy Edge?
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The equine nutritionist I spoke with previously was the one who recommended the Ultium; this was when I was trying to find solutions to help the horse gain weight safely without making him, uhm, stupid; this was just prior to bringing him home..I spent two weeks doing nutirtion research and was trying to figure out a system that would work with the full board. Asan aside as I had these types of comments before, this is a licensed equine nutirtionist and not just ye old feed store owner claiming to be a nutritionist :) She helped me set up the plan for this horse that we have been following to date.

In answer to the question though, no :)...didn't know it existed. I'll check it out though..am trying to keep the number of extra containers down to one which is why I wanted to stop the Rice Bran pellets as a top dressing.
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the strategy healthy edge is NOT like the regular strategy ax or gx. hugely different ime. i highly recommend it.
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