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post #1 of 15 Old 09-25-2013, 05:38 PM Thread Starter
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Feed help! What else to add with these pellets?

Hi all,
I'm getting my horse this week and I'm a bit confounded about what to feed her. In the past I've always done hay and grain with canola oil (that was 10 years ago), now with all my research on minerals, ration balancers, additives, etc, my head is spinning! Add to that, the limited options in my area and now I'm really confused!

The horse will be on constant pasture - super green but low nutritionally because it grows so fast.

I bought a bag of what they are calling Horse Champ at my local feed store - this is produced by ADM, so I called them to get nutrition information because it's not on the bag. Because it's produced by a Puerto Rico subsidiary of ADM they weren't exactly sure, but they said by the description they were "pretty" sure it was comparable to their Patriot line of products:
http://www.admani.com/horse/Products...%2012%2014.htm

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Pasture plus these pellets plus....? Do I need to add a vitamin/mineral supplement to this? I was going to add a bit of canola oil, but should I do flax seed as well? Where does a ration balancer come in? (would it be a substitute for something like these pellets, not an add on?) A friend recommended Mare Magic supplement since she's a mare.... does anyone use this? (my impression not much for nutrition just helps with heat)

This will be a pleasure horse, ridden 3-4 times a week, but solid 2+ hour rides on hills, etc in the HEAT. Paso Fino, easy keeper. Right now she needs to put on a little weight and some muscle tone. She's only been on the pasture and some low quality hay for the past year or so.

Thank you for any suggestions!
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It depends....if you feed below the recommended amount, you're probably falling short with vits/mins. I also wouldn't feed the 6 lbs, would rather start with a lb, add a vit/min supplement, flax, if you want to, but shouldn't be necessary since she's got grass, and watch her for about a month. If she's not gaining from that, go higher with the feed. If she's an easy keeper, decent pasture should fill her out.
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Thanks desertwoman I thought the same about the amounts- 6lbs seems like waaaay too much, esp at first. What kind of vitamin supplement would you recommend?
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I have used Patriot, and my horses did really good on it. I don't think you are going to have a problem with grass+. You would not need a ration balancer and Patriot, just the RBand grass, and/or hay. We are usually using the concentrate(Patriot) as a RB, so you just need to figure out which is most economical.

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Not quite right, greentree. " normal" feeds are designed to be fed at a certain amount to guarantee uptake of the vits/mins in proper amounts. If you'll feed considerably less than this recommended amount, you'll also feed less vits/mins. So adding half ration of a supplement is feasable.
OP, don't know what you can get over there. I like and use, of course, ShoGlo from MannaPro, 2 oz daily for 1000 lbs horse, 5 lbs are around 15$
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It depends....if you feed below the recommended amount, you're probably falling short with vits/mins. I also wouldn't feed the 6 lbs, would rather start with a lb, add a vit/min supplement, flax, if you want to, but shouldn't be necessary since she's got grass, and watch her for about a month. If she's not gaining from that, go higher with the feed. If she's an easy keeper, decent pasture should fill her out.
This is what I would do. Start light and add if needed. Too often I think there is a tendency to over-supplement and overfeed.
Good luck! You must be really excited about now...new horse and all. : )

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I just switched to ShoGlo after using DuMor Ultra Shine for about 6 1/2-7 months, and so far I like it too. I haven't seen an improvement per say, but my filly hasn't lost any coat or skin condition and she seems perfectly happy and healthy right now on the ShoGlo, and its a heck of a lot cheaper than DuMor.

I'm feeding a half-ration of grain to my filly (normal amount for her size is 5 lbs-7 lbs, I'm feeding 2 1/2) and the supplement and it works great for her even though she's a hard keeper, so I would think your mare will do just fine on that and the grass. Will she have hay as well, or just the grass as her forage?

You might look into the website Feed XL. I just became a member after having it recommended to me (super cheap and VERY helpful when it comes to balancing your horse's diet) and love it. It might be able to help you more than we can, since we don't live in your area and know your hay/grain types.

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Thanks for the suggestions everyone-

Endiku, I saw feed.xl recommended somewhere so I checked it out but they don't have my area of course. I though about registering as south Florida or something as close as I can get... As for hay- she's just going to be on pasture here as long as it holds out (4 acres for 2 horses should stay just fine) hay here is expensive and not great quality.
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My friends down here use farnam super 14 vit supplement because it's available locally.... Anyone have experience with that?

Thanks nancy for the votes about the patriot feeds... :)
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The super 14 is a coat supplement. Basically does what flaxseed would do.
Vita Plus is the Farnam general vit/min. Maybe they can order that for you.
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