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    04-12-2013, 10:51 PM
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Feed Question/Need Advice

I recently purchased a pony for my daughter, 5yo, 13.2 hands, paint, gelding. His Feed is Beet Pulp and Oats, 3 cups of each (1.5 pounds-each) twice daily and unlimited coastal Bermuda hay. We have our Mini Joe, who gets Purina Mini & Pony feed (1 cup in AM, 2 cups in PM - actual CUPS, not "scoops") and same unlimited hay. Plus they both have all the grass they chose to eat. The pony came here (2 weekends ago) pretty mellow, normal for a new environment. Last few days, he's kind of "off". The mini finishes his normal (I call it kibble LOL) and goes in for the beet/oats. I am noticing changes in the mini's attitude (not good changes), he's jumpy and, well, not so "sweet". The pony is taking on an attitude, and has so much energy he can hardly stand for grooming. BUT this was the diet his old owner told me he was getting.
If feed REALLY has an affect on attitude, I'd have to side with the (kibble) Purina Mini & Pony chow that the Mini eats. But can I switch the pony to it, is it enough, is it too much? I have read A LOT on bagged "kibble" and don't really like what I read, but am also thinking the beet pulp/grass combo is giving these guys a Sugar High.
I guess my question is, for ultimate nutrition, should I go beet pulp/oats/hay/grass, or kibble/hay/grass, keeping in mind they are both children's mounts, ridden/played with often, but not daily?
And I had to add, I personally deal with them daily. They are in our "backyard" so I use every moment of being outside as a training session, even if it's just me having to go to the shed and "train" ground work/ personal space stuff. The KIDS don't mess with them daily, but MOM does
     
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    04-12-2013, 11:21 PM
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You didn't mention if they have a health issue. If they don't I would cut out everything except the hay. If it's good quality, that should be all they need unless they have trouble keeping weight on.
Can you get Standlee hay products in your area? I just started it last year. It's just a pelleted hay. I add ground flax seed to it for added coat shine and healthy joints. Other than that and natural snacks (carrots, apples) they don't get anything else.
ETA- Mine also get free choice hay
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    04-12-2013, 11:40 PM
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Vidaloco, are you saying I can cut out all the "additives" all together? As for the pony, he's only been here 2 weeks so I don't know if there were health issues, as for the Mini, he's been here since August and he's definitely healthy. A little background of me, I had horses growing up, all boarding stable kept, got out of them and now back in, so I am a research queen right now LOL Been raising dogs the past 20 years, same but way different
From what I have researched on the new pony (and don't set me on fire for this, BOTH were CL purchases, did a lot of searching and feeling, and again having horses growing up, I did absolutely find ones that needed us more than we needed them, BUT in my defense, so far so good with my selections) anyway the pony, I am concerned, again with my research of feed, that MAYBE, and I don't know, he may have had issues with founder in the past? Honestly I don't know why else he would be fed this way (she had 4 other horses that were fed the "kibble" instead), and the previous owner (PO) spoke a lot about not letting him graze on grass (yet knew I have grassy fields) and made a HUGE point to have the farrier come at her cost before we brought him home, even though our farrier was coming 2 days after the pony was to arrive. He's feet are really good, he doesn't have the founder stance, but the PO kept talking about "too much sugar" in his diet, yet specifically told me to feed pulp w/ molasses. When I asked PO about founder, her answer was it's common in ponies, so I think it was an indirect indication that maybe the pony has had issues before?
And I could be totally wrong, again, he's doing great BUT I don't think the feed is right for him. Like I said, he can barely stand still to be groomed, and I would just say that's him, but when I see joe (the mini) eating his diet and then getting jumpy, it has to be the food right? (mind you, joe was brought into my home MANY times by the kids over the winter, he didn't touch a thing, today if they did it, would be like a bull in a china-shop)


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Originally Posted by Vidaloco    
You didn't mention if they have a health issue. If they don't I would cut out everything except the hay. If it's good quality, that should be all they need unless they have trouble keeping weight on.
Can you get Standlee hay products in your area? I just started it last year. It's just a pelleted hay. I add ground flax seed to it for added coat shine and healthy joints. Other than that and natural snacks (carrots, apples) they don't get anything else.
ETA- Mine also get free choice hay
     
    04-12-2013, 11:53 PM
  #4
Showing
I've never had ponies, I don't think they have different digestive systems then regular horses though. Basically all a horse needs is grass and or hay. Spring time grasses are very high in sugar/carbohydrates. If you are getting spring grass coming up and you don't have a dry lot, I suggest you get a grazing muzzle to limit their intake of that sweet spring grass. I would also start cutting down on the additional feed until they are off of it completely. If they start losing condition than you can add back some of the additional feed.
The spring grass may be what the previous owner was talking about and him getting what is called grass founder. Article- Grass Founder in Horses – America’s Horse Daily
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    04-13-2013, 12:15 AM
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I better add that we also keep a Redmond salt lick out for them at all times. It supplies most of the minerals they need. My girls are all in the 1200lb range and they get 1 lb of Timothy pellet and 1/3 cup ground flax seed daily. They get all the grass hay they want and in the cold winter months I add alfalfa cube to keep them warm. That's it. I think you're right, your kids are on a sugar high.
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