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post #21 of 27 Old 11-07-2011, 10:42 AM Thread Starter
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Thinking of adding 1 gallon of soy oil to 250lbs of our normal sweet feed and asking the mill to take out/replace some of the molasses with it. Will this amount of oil in 250lbs of gain cause it to be soupy? I just want to add some "safe"calories to their dirty through the winter. Thoughts/experience?
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post #22 of 27 Old 11-07-2011, 10:52 AM Thread Starter
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Also, soy oil has about 600 more calories, when compared cup for cup with the molasses!
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post #23 of 27 Old 11-07-2011, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by WildAcreFarms View Post
I'm sorry but i have to respectfully disagree with the article that you quoted, for starters their math is off ;) I think there are as many opinions on how to feed a horse as there are horse people in the world :) I've had really good luck with adding oils to my horses diet. My Vet Manuel for conditioning the modern sport horse says that many horses need the extra calories of oil and that any veggie based oils are fine to feed horses up to several cups a day (if i remember right) I never gave mine more then a cup at a time mixed with feeds but it helped IMMEDIATELY, I swear i saw them putting on weight in a matter of days.

Originally Posted by Left Hand Percherons View Post
The Barnmice blog is loaded with inaccurate information and is nothing more than a shameless promotional ad for homeopathic products. To say that "an ounce of Fat is equivalant to..." Wrong! Yes it's only one word off but the author has chosen to not correct it in the 2 years it's been up so she is dispensing bad information. Another problem was not distinguishing what a poor quality fat is. She's placing all fats in that group. Unsaturated vegetable fats are highly digestible and have a place in equine nutrition. Replacing protein and CHO calories that have a nutrtitve value with empty fat calories is hardly a concern with mature horses. We already overfeed with quality hay and oversupplementation so the empty fat calories are not going to create a difficiency. The reference that fat will slow stomach emptying is intersting. Most digestive related issues with horses start with product being dumped in to GI tract too quickly which will alter the bacterial flora with serious complications at times. What's the purpose of the olive oil experiment? She consumed 50% of her daily caloric intake with a non nutritive oil so of course she's going to feel like crap. She's also applying human digestion processes and trying to make a parallel with horses which you just can't do. To close the blog with stating that these homeopathic products will "remove fat residue from the intestines..." sealed the deal that this individual doesn't have anything of value to contribute.

Anyway, CC 100 is 99% vegetable oil. It's going to be digested and utilized that same way liquid vegetable oil is. Put the amount fed into prospective. 1/2# of either is only going to represent 10% or less of the total caloric intake. The quality and quantity of hay is going to have a much more dramatic impact on the overall diet than any supplement.
Left Hand Percherons, ok thanks, didn't know of that, I just found that and used as a online example, I truthfully didnt read it, I just scanned the first part, sorry for giving out incorrect information. However, this horse nutritionist wrote this book The Horse Nutrition Handbook, by Melyni Worth, that I read about a month or two ago, and yes the updated version, and it talked about oils. It didn't say they are terrible for horses and such, but it did say to try to steer clear from them if possible, corn oil in particular, and use if possible an alternative such as beet pulp or rice bran. And, I just reread the section and to sum it up, it said along the lines of this, and no not a direct copy from book, in my own words: Corn oil is classified as a PG-1 oil, which also includes safflower, sunflower, and evening primrose, PG stands for prostaglandins. Corn oil is all fat, containing tons of calories, meaning they will gain weight from the calories. But, corn oil is highly processed, so it would be better to supply calories from a less processed source, which means they loose fat and such when processed, and also chemicals are added in them to preserve them, which are ok for humans, but not necessarily horses. So no, oil isn't as bad for horses as the barnmice thing said, but they aren't necessarily the best option for gaining weight. And, of course you do have to sometimes have to choose corn oil, but I would us a different alternative. Sorry everyone for the wrong info

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Have you ever read the list of chemicals in horse feeds? Unless you feed strictly organic feed, you are already feeding chemicals to them :/
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post #25 of 27 Old 11-09-2011, 01:07 AM
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I just started using alpha one rice bran oil for my filly, she is flaking pretty bad and low on weight, and has summer sores (worms). Its going to take a while because I am introducing it slowly but I will let you know how it goes, I might add some flax seed oil in the future as well for omega 3s, I am very curious about this rice bran oil its nice and clean and I can purchase it at the local grocery store:).
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post #26 of 27 Old 11-13-2011, 05:32 PM
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Hello there ... I just bought my first horse ever and I want to make sure he gets everything that he needs. He is not very active since I board him 2 hrs ( lansing ) away from where I live.I see him on the weekends . I could use some help and sugestions when it comes to feed.
Thank you so much.
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