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    07-18-2012, 05:35 AM
  #11
Foal
Meghanlovee11 - I did google it and it sounds great, the pictures of horses that have been on it are amazing. But I live in Australia and haven't heard of it, the 2 feed stores I went to today haven't heard of it either .
However my boy is doing well and is gaining weight nicely, can't believe how much is has gained in just 12 days. Will keep looking for it though.
     
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    07-18-2012, 11:19 AM
  #12
Trained
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Originally Posted by maz78    
meghanlovee11 - I did google it and it sounds great, the pictures of horses that have been on it are amazing. But I live in Australia and haven't heard of it, the 2 feed stores I went to today haven't heard of it either .
However my boy is doing well and is gaining weight nicely, can't believe how much is has gained in just 12 days. Will keep looking for it though.
I've rarely seen a TB who does well on hay or pasture only. My last one, 3 year old off the track, came also quite ribby , no top line, and not even a belly......they just cut his grain and didn't up the hay when he was let down.
I put him on free choice hay and about 5 lbs if pelleted low sugar feed, for horses with metabolic problems. That was the only one I could get who was high in fat and low starch (Italy).
Worked great I must say. He grew a full 2" in the first three months and filled out nicely.
The TB I had in Germany many moons ago did finally gain with lucerne pellets soaked, some bran, and barley and corn, oil, 50 grams each of soy and linseed and a vit /min supplement. He couldn't have oats, would go nutts if you just mentioned them in his presence
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    07-18-2012, 10:40 PM
  #13
Foal
I havent found them in feed stores either. There are private sellers that buy pallets from the guy who made it.
Shoot. I just looked at the website again. Sigh. I think its only in the usa.
     
    07-19-2012, 07:54 AM
  #14
Trained
Hi,

I'd treat him for ulcers & feed a probiotic, and ensure he's getting a good nutritional supp that balances his diet.

I'd ditch the molo mix in favour of unsweetened chaff. Lucerne/alfalfa is high energy but low sugar. It's also high protein & calcium. I'd also be inclined to cut down on the grain/starchy feed, especially if you can only feed twice daily. Beet pulp & rice bran are good high energy alternatives.

Starchy, sugary feeds(as he would have been on as a race horse) are known to cause hind gut acidosis & associated problems such as ulcers, colic, laminitis. You may well find with these measures he's not a 'hard keeper'. You don't want to 'beef him up' too quickly, gradual weight gain is healthier.
     
    07-19-2012, 08:48 AM
  #15
Weanling
Barley, alfalfa, linseed jelly, peas/beans, sugar beet (speedi beet and kwiki beet are the same, just preped differently) and bran are the best for putting weight on, and ad lib hay

At first, I would buy the straights and mix the meals your self, then change to a complete feed if convenience is needed.
How tall is he and how much does he weigh? (15.2hh should = about 500kg, 16.2hh = 600kg) assuming he weighs (or should weigh) 600kg I would feed:
-about 10kg of roughage a day (just under 2% of bodyweight)
Then in 2-3 meals:
-1.5kg soaked sugar beet (300-500g dry depending on brand)
-1kg alfalfa chop
-500g-1kg barley
-500g oats (if you want)
-a few oz linseed jelly (if you can be bothered to make it!)
-a probiotic suplement to improve gut flora and reduce chances of ulcers in the stomach and hind gut.
-bran if he's fussy, or if he gets cold- warms em up good n propper (oat brans are harder to get hold of, but better if the horse has hind gut ulcers)

Although its hard to avoid starchy feeds when trying to put on condition, I really reccomend trying to get the starch intake to less than 20% as soon as you can. Speedi-beet has no starch, alfalfa very little, but unfortunatly grains have around 40% starch. It could be worth finding a lower stach pelleted feed (or a 'balancer' if $$ allow) instead of the grains if you suspect your horse might have ulcers or any other digestive problems. Check out the lables in store, or email companies directly for full nutritional analysis and content.
     
    07-19-2012, 02:57 PM
  #16
Foal
I am feeding my very hard keeper OTTB Kompeet in addition to 20 lb of Alfalfa. I have used rice bran pellets with additional 10 lbs of low starch feed which put the weight on but also made him hot. I took him off of rice bran and give him 4 lbs of low starch feed with 2 scoops of Kompeet a day. Kompeet is 100% digestible vegetable fat. It can be ordered in AUS and is amazing for weight and concentration which is so hard to balance with an OTTB. Here is a link to thread I posted for his conformation.

Please Critique for Jumping
     
    07-19-2012, 03:05 PM
  #17
Foal
I feed Kompeet to my very hard keeper OTTB. It has done wonders for weight and focus. I used to feed him 2 lbs rice bran pellets plus 10 lbs of a low starch feed to keep the weight on. I found he got too hot on that diet. I took him off rice bran and now feed 4 lbs of low starch feed with 2 scoops of Kompeet. He is more willing and keeping the weight on. There have been several of us at my barn who have made the switch and it has done wonders on the horses attitudes. It can also be found in AUS! Kompeet

Here is a pic of my boy finally at his ideal weight. He has never looked better!
Please Critique for Jumping

Good luck.
     
    07-22-2012, 07:16 AM
  #18
Foal
Thanks to everyone for there input Heaps of idea's for me to go through and decide what will work for my boy.
I have now put him on speedibeet 1.5kgs, equijewel 500gms , barley 1.5kgs (boiled) a chaff combo mix and is still getting as much hay as he will eat. I will see how he does on this but I like the sound of the kompeet too.
ChemE your horse looks lovely
     

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