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post #1 of 13 Old 09-22-2011, 06:23 PM Thread Starter
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Feeding for a senior arabian

Ok guys so there are 2 older arabian geldings(mid to late 20s) that we have been having trouble keeping weight on. One in particular(older one) we are worried about as he has few teeth and has been dropping weight. Currently he is on 2 flakes alfalfa/2 flakes oat hay(twice daily), 96ounces of equine senior plus joint supplements, but he is still dropping weight. So my BO asked me to research and see what we should feed him. We have tried beet pulp it helped some but not a lot from what she has told me. So what do you guys think?? The other gelding is also getting the same feeding reg. but isn't dropping weight as bad as odyessey is. Also they are used quite often for trail rides and lessons so thats to be kept in mind. He is on a regular deworming schedule as well.

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Currently he is on 2 flakes alfalfa/2 flakes oat hay(twice daily).
I meant 1 flake of oat - this is simply to keep them full during the night/afternoon as we don't have pasture where we are located.All of the coats look great just he is not keeping weight

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sr feed. hay pellets. dewormed. try a probiotic. Corn oil. Corn oil corn oil it adds tons of fat calories. He needs the fat. Hay at all times, pull out the stemmy stuff that he does not eat. 24 hr access to salt block and water. and an alfalfa molasses product .. i use A+M . make sure the teeth are not sharp.. get them floated.
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Ok guys so there are 2 older arabian geldings(mid to late 20s) that we have been having trouble keeping weight on. One in particular(older one) we are worried about as he has few teeth and has been dropping weight. Currently he is on 2 flakes alfalfa/2 flakes oat hay(twice daily), 96ounces of equine senior plus joint supplements, but he is still dropping weight. So my BO asked me to research and see what we should feed him. We have tried beet pulp it helped some but not a lot from what she has told me. So what do you guys think?? The other gelding is also getting the same feeding reg. but isn't dropping weight as bad as odyessey is. Also they are used quite often for trail rides and lessons so thats to be kept in mind. He is on a regular deworming schedule as well.

According to the feeding instructions on the Purina Senior bag, a horse that should weigh between 800 - 1,000 lbs should receive between 14 - 17 lbs of Senior per day, you might also want to soak his feed. Purina also says not to feed with oats, maybe too much starch. I also fed up to 5 lbs/day of Ultium Compete in addition to their Senior for my oldies when they were having a tough time holding weight. I let them have as much grass/alfalfa as they wanted but only AFTER they ate their buckets. Based on 14-17 lbs of Senior plus 5 lbs of Ultium, you'd need to feed him approx 4 times per day so that you never fed more than 6 lbs of concentrate per feeding. Adding the Ultium to the feed is what really turned things around for me.

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It isn't possible to feed him more then 2 times but his grain is split up. He is on a worming schedule as i stated, does have a salt block and clean water at all times. He has had his teeth checked but as i also stated he doesn't have many..some but not all the ones he needs hah poor old guy. I'm simply looking for either a product/feeding reg that can be done 2 times a day that will add weight. I will suggest the corn oil and ultium. Also he gets fed a good amount more so id say probably 3ish flakes of alfalfa and 1 1/2 oat(filler for throughtout the day/night) as we double feed everyone. He doesn't get oats just a senior feed (have to double check the brand) and a joint sup.

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also is there a specific way or brand of hay pellets and probiotics that you guys would recommend???

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The problem I ran into with the hay is that the oldsters couldn't chew it properly, so they couldn't get the nutrition from the hay. So even though I gave them lots of hay they couldn't carry the weight because they weren't getting what they needed from it. I'd feed as much senior and ultium as needed then, and soak it down a bit so it's a thick stew consistency, and let him work his way through it. The Senior and the Ultium all have pre & pro biotics in them, so I wouldn't think you'd need more. I'd worry less about feeding him hay and more about feeding him a complete pellet that can be soaked since he can't chew real well.

Since you're in CA you can probably get Sacate Mills Standard Bread and Thorough Bread pellets. They seem to be the best ones I've ever used and take soaking well. I haven't been able to get them east of AZ, but that's what I fed a lot of when I lived in CA & AZ.

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Ok thank you :] I will pass it on to the BO she just wanted me to research some options on what to feed him as he is having trouble now and we are worried bout winter.

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for the ultium would you go with the competition or growth? He is used fairly often , I'm pretty sure if he is used at gymkhana this year it will only be for leadlines but he still does regular lessons and trail rides daily.Oh and its equine senior that he is currently getting

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I'd go with the compete formula: CRUDE PROTEINMIN11.7%CRUDE FATMIN12.40%CRUDE FIBERMAX18.50%

The Growth forumula is way high in protein which could be hard on old kidneys and much lower in fat : CRUDE PROTEINMIN15.50%LYSINEMIN1.00%CRUDE FATMAX9.50%CRUDE FIBERMIN13.00%

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