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    06-09-2013, 12:19 AM
Haha, she isn't so fugly, Smrobs, I remember when you got her.

Would a handful (like a smallish woman sized hand handful) of grain once or twice a day be ok to start with though? It would partially be a vehicle for the Probios.

Also I think the hubby would be a lot happier if I grew out of my "sucker" phase. =D
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    06-09-2013, 12:23 AM
Oh, yeah, I'm sure that small of an amount will be just fine, especially since there's no better way of feeding the probios.

Just so you know...we need pictures like tomorrow .
    06-09-2013, 01:09 AM
..also agree with saddlebag.

You wanna be careful not to throw too much at a young horse- even a two year old can suffer from too much proteins.. I've learned too much proteins too fast will cause OCD 'Osteochondritis Dissecans' (a cartilage growth on the hocks)

I don't think the prob will hurt but don't think its really necessary -id definitely up hay rations and make sure he's got access to a mineral block- if after a while he looks like he's lackin then id go through and give him what he lacks.
    06-09-2013, 02:26 AM
Green Broke
You are definitely not the only sucker on this planet. If you go to this link you will see my latest project. The last picture of him was taken late summer/early fall of last year.

Rescue, before and after.

Like yours foundation bred QH with no papers because the owner hadn't bothered to keep updated records but I did see his dam's papers and the breeders certificate for his sire, 2 year old horse colt. He had never even had a halter on let alone been wormed, feet trimmed or anything else. I wasn't sure he'd even live because he was nothing but a bag of bones that was covered in burrs and lice.

I know many people disagree with the way I feed because I'm still old school when it comes to that and as you can see it worked for him. I have my feed mixed at a feed mill.

300 lbs of cracked corn
200 lbs of whole oats
100 lbs of horse pellets (don't know the exact brand name but every feed mill always knows what I'm talking about)
5 lbs of trace mineral salt
And then I tell them just enough molasses to cut the dust

I got that recipe from a long time breeder that I bought a couple of my horses from close to 30 years ago. I have no issues with colic or it making them hot. I do need to add that along about May I switch to just plain oats because with our humidity the feed will get moldy.

For any horse that needs to put on extra weight I use calf-mana for an additional supplement.

For the colts rehab he got 3 meals a day and very limited grass. Starting off he got about a pound of feed, 1/4 cup of calf-mana, a good size flake of second cutting orchard grass hay, a half a flake of alfalfa in the a.m. At noon it was another flake of the grass hay and another pound of feed (no calf-mana added), his evening meal was identical to the a.m. Feeding. I slowly built up from there, very slowly. Of course fresh waster, plain salt block & tm salt block was available at all times.

Once he got gelded which was the day after that "6 weeks later" picture was taken I started getting him used to pasture. Once he could be on 24 hour turnout he only got grain + a flake of alfalfa/grass mix hay once a day. Keep in mind by he time he was on 24 hour turnout it was probably late July early Aug. So the grass was not lush.

Today I classify him as an easy keeper. I still grain him 1X per day because I want them all (12 horses) to come to the barn so I can check them over, but he only gets about 1/4 of a scoop, if that much.

He's been an awesome little guy who has never given us one reason to regret bringing him home with us and I hope you find as much fulfillment with your colt as I have with mine. And bless you for being willing to try!
    06-09-2013, 06:56 PM
Green Broke
Don't feel bad thinking that way! When I bought chrome I was initially looking for a barrel horse at least 7-12 yrs old and over 14.2. When I saw chrome my heart sank, he was in major pain from his ear, bad feet, obese and his coat was mangy looking. He turned out to be a 4 yr old possibly unbroke barely 14.2 slender gelding. As cute as he was I couldn't leave him but I knew I'd have to move him on. So I fixed him up worked on his riding( ended up knowing way more then we thought) and found him a great home where he will be trail ridden, and possibly used for mounted shooting and barrels. I now can get the barrel horse I want but I also helped a horse who otherwise would have stayed in a bad situation.
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    06-09-2013, 07:50 PM
No, do not add anything to his diet just yet. Just decent quality hay. Wait a few weeks to deworm. If you think he looks rough now you might be in for a shock when you see what he looks like 24 hrs after deworming if he's quite wormy. If it happens it will take 3 or 4 days for him to get over it. If the worm count is high, a milder wormer may be recommended as a big worm kill can plug a horse. Then you will need the vet to come quickly and unplug him. I'm not trying to scare you, just be aware. As soon as you've dewormed add the probio's to his water unless your's comes in a syringe. About a week after deworming and his body has gotten over the shock, I'd add a coffee cup of oats.Why I recommend oats is that only oats will heal hind gut ulcers if he has them. The probiotics should be given for 5 days after the deworming. After 3 or four days, allowing his tender gut to get used to the oats, add another cup so it's 1 cup 2 x daily. The process seems slow and I'm sure you are anxious to get weight on him but too much too soon can have serious consequences. Horses have rather delicate constitutions so take it easy and gradually.
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    06-09-2013, 11:32 PM
Ok so update:

I went out to the boarding barn to discuss the situation with my BO and she suggests we start him off with a bit of what she feeds: Tribute Kalm or something like that? She said it already contains the Probiotics.

She gave me a smallish bucket of the feed, enough for many handfulls, and sold me 2 bales of hay. I took them out to the lady, and that was rough. Her power is off, and she does have hay pretty much everywhere, she picked up a bunch today, and some of it they just dumped everywhere for the horses to eat. There's pretty much poo everywhere, and cats everywhere, and horses everywhere. I will be glad to get him out of there so he can get some individualized care.

Not sure if you can see his spine sticking out. I'm not comfortable with that one.

For kicks here is another horse at her place:

And another:

Definitely on the slender side...maybe old?
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    06-09-2013, 11:36 PM
Gah! What is she doing breeding!?!?!

Thank goodness he's leaving that place.

Most definitely wormy. Sure has a cute face though.

Poor babies. The horses in the background of one of the pictures don't look majorly skinny though. Hard to tell from so far away though.

Is that your husband? LoL. He looks just thrilled.
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    06-09-2013, 11:44 PM
Originally Posted by CLaPorte432    
Gah! What is she doing breeding!?!?!

Thank goodness he's leaving that place.

Most definitely wormy. Sure has a cute face though.

Poor babies. The horses in the background of one of the pictures don't look majorly skinny though. Hard to tell from so far away though.

is that your husband? LoL. He looks just thrilled.
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Oh he wants me to tell you that he is *most definitely* thrilled. ;) And I do have to admit that the horse is rather underwhelming.

I didn't pick up any poo today for the fecal, but I'm pretty sure she gave him an entire Ivermectin syringe yesterday. I will talk to a vet about it at the same time of the blood draw, hopefully tomorrow (fingers crossed the mechanic actually FINISHES THE WORK on my trailer!!!). I don't want to worm him immediately with Zimectin, because when I got my first horse, she had never been wormed and she had what may have been an episode of colic after we dewormed her with that. Sudden worm death with what may be a massive load is bad news.
    06-09-2013, 11:46 PM
Posted a pic thread for before and after:

Strider: The Impluse Buy/Auction House Foundation QH Colt

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