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  • Pregnant mare with dull coat and under weight pictures

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    09-23-2011, 01:13 PM
  #11
Weanling
The weather is rather chilly up here right now. To be honest I think she has kind of had a meltdown well actually I think this is painting too bleak a picture so let me explain what's happened since my last post. When she arrived it was rather chilly so I put a lightweight rug on her in the hope that she wouldn't lose any more weight. I turned her out with ad lib hay and in a large (ish) field with the other horses on a good amount of grass in the hope that on good grass and as much hay as she wanted and also company of other horses (as she had been on her own) she would start to feel a little better. So since I turned her out I haven't been able to catch her. I think she is dealing with some stress and emotional stuff right now. I am working on catching her with my trainer/friend but i'm not actively trying to catch her more on approaching her. I think she has been through a rough couple of months and needs to gain some trust in me so I am doing some exercises with catching/approaching but mainly if she comes to me I am stroking her and allowing her to leave at any time she wants instead of trying to trap her into being with me. So hence no pics she is still in her rug and i'm not massively interacting with her. From what I can tell (she does allow me to go as close as about 4ft-5ft and on occassion lets me stroke her) she does seem to have put a little bit of weight on her belly but is still ribby. I've just actually thought there are some pictures on Facebook of her with her previous owner not so long ago so I might be able to post them here until I can get some more recent ones taken. At work right now but as soon as i'm home I will try and upload them from facebook and see what you think.
     
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    09-23-2011, 02:01 PM
  #12
Foal
I'm pleased you're not pushing her if she has had a rough time she'll need time to settle. I bought a mare a few months ago and used a similar approach as you, as soon as she showed any sign of stress I would turn and walk away, gradually with a few pony nuts on offer now and again I was able to walk up to her most days and she just got better and better.
Keep us updated, looking forward to hearing that you have been able to stroke her regularly, it's trite I know but the longest journey starts with a single step and getting those early steps right are so important.
Good luck.
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    09-24-2011, 10:17 AM
  #13
Weanling
pics

http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/.../family021.jpg

http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/...ceratbeach.jpg

http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/...ncerskinny.jpg

http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/...ernothappy.jpg

http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/...cervskinny.jpg

In order from the top are the mare 6 months after she had had her foal. I think apart from the fact that she has a baby belly still there and she hadn't been ridden through her whole pregnancy she looks pretty good part from lack of muscle.

Secong down is the mare about a week after we sold her so this is the condition she left us in. I really like this picture she looks healthy and happy.

Then we start to see dull coat, dull eyes and just general lack of enthusiasm. When I compare the beach picture to the other pictures I just think she has been held onto with the reins and it's caused the awful upside down neck and total lack of condition (but my aim is not to comment on the riding here). I know they are not the best body shots but that's all I could find right now. Let me just add a picture I took a couple of days ago.

http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/...s/DSC00070.jpg

I already can see a difference even just in the way she is holding herself would appreciate your thoughts.
     
    09-24-2011, 11:49 AM
  #14
Foal
Please remember I'm no expert but if that's what you've acheived in a week could you bottle it?
I would love to see a picture without a rug and sideways on, because it will prove what you already think. She has improved a lot, her neck already looks so much better and she seems to have a lot more life in her eyes, and is that a tummy I see under that rug?
The beach pictures look as though she was underfed and unloved, I bet your glad to have got her back she didn't look at all happy.
Keep up the good work and more pics when you have time, they'll be good to look back on in a few months anyway just to prove to yourself she was as poor as you thought and sooooooooo sad bless her.
     
    09-24-2011, 01:25 PM
  #15
Weanling
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Originally Posted by LadynDibs    
please remember I'm no expert but if that's what you've acheived in a week could you bottle it?
I would love to see a picture without a rug and sideways on, because it will prove what you already think. She has improved a lot, her neck already looks so much better and she seems to have a lot more life in her eyes, and is that a tummy I see under that rug?
The beach pictures look as though she was underfed and unloved, I bet your glad to have got her back she didn't look at all happy.
Keep up the good work and more pics when you have time, they'll be good to look back on in a few months anyway just to prove to yourself she was as poor as you thought and sooooooooo sad bless her.
I've just basically left her alone to be a horse again and just done the bare minimum with her. I thought it was a tummy also! I really need to get the rug off and take a look at her properly but i'm more concerned that she learns to trust me and will willingly walk up to me before I start trying to handle her. She was a very calm mare when we had her previously she had a very deep and severe wound to her back leg and my mum had to dress her leg twice a day and she was on box rest and she stayed very calm and manageable. She has come back very spooky and anxious. I have a very good support system and I am working with my trainer to try and get her back to health. She is booked in for her teeth rechecked and once she is being handled properly again I would really like to get the chiro out to her for a once over. My most important goal is to get her looking and feeling good again. Thank you for your comments I wasn't sure whether I was making fuss over nothing but one thing I was sure about was that she didn't look happy.
     
    09-24-2011, 02:00 PM
  #16
Foal
When I first got my mare I could catch her then when she realised she could be a horse we had issues like you are having, ever since I started the no stress/pressure approach she has got better and yesterday we had another little breakthrough, when I go down to her field she almost always comes down to say hello but yesterday when I walked up the field she followed when I called her with no hint of a 'treat'. Today was even better, she not only followed but with her head collar on but the rope draped across her shoulders she followed me past the open gateway to fresh grass then even better we turned round and she followed me back to her shelter, again with no 'treat'.
I'm sure once your mare settles she'll remember the love she had from you before and will be wanting to be you best friend and will make my huge steps seem tiny by comparison.
     
    09-24-2011, 02:13 PM
  #17
Weanling
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Originally Posted by LadynDibs    
When I first got my mare I could catch her then when she realised she could be a horse we had issues like you are having, ever since I started the no stress/pressure approach she has got better and yesterday we had another little breakthrough, when I go down to her field she almost always comes down to say hello but yesterday when I walked up the field she followed when I called her with no hint of a 'treat'. Today was even better, she not only followed but with her head collar on but the rope draped across her shoulders she followed me past the open gateway to fresh grass then even better we turned round and she followed me back to her shelter, again with no 'treat'.
I'm sure once your mare settles she'll remember the love she had from you before and will be wanting to be you best friend and will make my huge steps seem tiny by comparison.
Thank you for sharing that with me. Gives me alot of hope that she will come round. I'm planning to go to the field tonight to just wander in amongst the herd and get her used to my presence. I try to keep my energy low as i'm just wanting her to be comfortable with me being around her again. I'm so pleased with her progress regardless of the catching issue. I was worried before she came back to me that it would be issues internally that were causing her problems but she seems to have picked up alot in the short time i've had her back. I'm such a worry pants about their health!
     
    09-25-2011, 05:41 PM
  #18
Foal
OMG im very worried about this horse going back to those people is there anyway you can stop her being given back, she looks awful in those other pics and fab with you? X
     
    09-26-2011, 04:53 AM
  #19
Weanling
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Originally Posted by brackenbramley    
OMG im very worried about this horse going back to those people is there anyway you can stop her being given back, she looks awful in those other pics and fab with you? X
I've decided to buy her back for the price they paid as I really didn't want her going back. My priority is to get her as healthy as I can through the winter months and hopefully when spring comes I will lease her but only from where we are so that I can keep an eye on her. She doesn't have much of an education so with some help i'm going to try go back to basics with her over the winter and try to build a good solid foundation. She has been regularly hacked/trail ridden but I think there are missing links in her education. For example she will plant and not move if she is worried about something and i'm very aware that if i'm trying to get her to move forward and she isn't she may channel that in upward movement. I'm very pleased with the way she has made a change physically in a short space of time.
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    09-26-2011, 05:05 AM
  #20
Foal
I'm really pleased to hear that you are keeping her, I looked back at the photos again this morning and she seemed to look even worse, I think when I first looked I was just comparing and seeing a big differance but when you look closely she really does look poor and has a depressed look about her which has already changed in the most recent picture.
Well done for deciding to keep her.
     

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