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    12-04-2012, 10:36 AM
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I was just going to say that
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    12-04-2012, 11:55 AM
  #32
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You do have to watch the temperatures with blankets and remove them/change them. A couple of mine were clipped in October as they were sweating so much - they didnt need a blanket on they needed a layer taking off!!
If you're sure he's warm enough then maybe you need to get some blood tests done because a healthy horse that isnt too hot/too cold or being overworked should actually keep weight on just fed enough good hay
I know you bought him in poor condition but he really did look quite well in the summer photos so something else must be going on for him to be losing it again.
     
    12-04-2012, 11:59 AM
  #33
Green Broke
The summer pix are from his old owner. The recent pics are from me. I've only had him less then a month and he is doing better on my grain and feeding regime but I don't think it's enough to fully help him. (Espiclally cause my grain is only 3% fat) I suspect he lost so much weight because he is the lowest on the pole and other horses might've taken his grain. Only a speculation, though. Yesterday was the first time he's ever sweated however. Usually he is nice and toasty.
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    12-04-2012, 12:14 PM
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The summer pix are from his old owner. The recent pics are from me. I've only had him less then a month and he is doing better on my grain and feeding regime but I don't think it's enough to fully help him. (Espiclally cause my grain is only 3% fat) I suspect he lost so much weight because he is the lowest on the pole and other horses might've taken his grain. Only a speculation, though. Yesterday was the first time he's ever sweated however. Usually he is nice and toasty.
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Sorry I didnt get that the old photo was pre losing weight
If you're going to feed one horse extra/different rations then you do have to make the effort to split them up or stand and supervise, it ensures they get their full ration and also reduces stress levels for the horse which can cause ulcers
When I've bought thin horses I've found that splitting the feed into more portions per day also helps as they seem to be able to digest and utilise it better
Ad lib hay helps but only if he's not getting run off by others
     
    12-04-2012, 12:23 PM
  #35
Green Broke
I still recommend adding Red Cell. If he has/had worms he was most likely anemic. Anemic can cause a horse to not absorb nutrients so no matter how much food he gets if that is not adressed it wont do anything. It's only about $20 a gallon and you should only need that one gallon. 2oz a day.
     
    12-04-2012, 12:36 PM
  #36
Green Broke
I do supervise feedings because I make sure he eats all of his grain. So ill try the red cell and nutrena and flax. :)
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    12-04-2012, 12:50 PM
  #37
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It looks like this horse is going to be stuffed with so many supplements he'll have no room for hay. You can overdose on minerals and fat soluble vitamins and throw everything out of whack. Excess water solubles will come out in the urine. Too many fat solubles can build up in the liver. Have the vet draw blood and that will tell you if the horse is lacking. If you feed hay in the pasture be sure to set out twice as many piles as there are horses, spaced well apart. This insures that a horse that would be driven off still has access to hay.
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    12-04-2012, 12:57 PM
  #38
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How will he be stuffed? Alls I'm doing is switching grain to higher fat and continuing with flax. I set out 4 hay feeders for 3 horses. Filled them all up as normal. None of them chase but they would only eat hay in 3 feeders and waste hay in 4th. They all eat hay peacefully and don't chase but I added the other feeder just incase and they wasted it.
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    12-04-2012, 12:58 PM
  #39
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This horse isn't getting any supplements from what I can see?? Flax is fat calories, nutrena is calories and Red Cell is a vitamin/mineral additive to help ensure proper level of nutrients. Can't really overdose on anything from Red Cell. No reason not to give it.

Also my vet informed me that pulling blood to check nutrient levels isn't like it is in humans, it is often not correct. $20 of Red Cell is cheaper than a blood draw and no harm can come from it as long as it measured correctly.
     
    12-04-2012, 01:09 PM
  #40
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I mean the only real supplements I've been giving him is Cosequin and probios....no where's near enough to be stuffed
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