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post #21 of 42 Old 04-01-2013, 08:58 PM
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post #22 of 42 Old 04-01-2013, 09:03 PM
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If mine was in pasture he prob wouldn't need grain but hes stalled and out here we have no grass for them to graze on AZ sucks!!

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post #23 of 42 Old 04-01-2013, 09:34 PM
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The vet said our grain is fine for what I'm feeding it for. It is made for barrel horses and such, so its high in fat and energy, which he needs
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post #24 of 42 Old 04-01-2013, 09:42 PM
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I think it's very beneficial to eliminate cereal grains (corn in particular and sweet feed, although oats has its uses)and if possible onto a ration balancer or vitamin/mineral supplement with plenty of hay or grass. Many horses where I board, both stalled and pasture board, do great on hay alone or along with a multi vitamin and mineral, quite a few use platinum performance. However, I have tried this with my own horse and he looked like crap. He lost muscle and weight and just looked dull. Even with unlimited hay he requires at least 6 pounds of a concentrated feed, I typically feed TC Senior and Purina Ultium to my horses. And that's only when he's in pretty light work. Normally he is ridden 6 days a week, twice on two days, schooling medium level dressage work as well as cross training because we do a little eventing and jumping for fun. Some horses just require more. I have worked with upper level jumpers that required only hay with half a pound or so of oats and they looked fabulous.
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post #25 of 42 Old 04-01-2013, 10:44 PM
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I don't feed grain come middle of summer I do feed oats 3lbs twice a day.
Right now hay 24/7 with a vit/min supplement I have been giving some alfalfa pellets with that.
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post #26 of 42 Old 04-07-2013, 11:04 PM
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im looking for some suggestions...

my mare is currently eating 2lbs of strategy once per day. not at regular times, just when i can make it out, but every single day, i dont skip days. she travels off the farm a lot, and shes not showing signs of ulcers, but she is definitely the type of horse that is more 'ulcer prone' imo.

i was thinking of switching her over to eating alfalfa cubes, is that a good option ? how much do you usually start with ? she also eating a pelleted hoof supplement and a powdered joint supplement that i would have to figure out how to get her to eat.

i dont want to take over this thread, just looking for some ideas !

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2lbs of strategy once per day. ... the type of horse that is more 'ulcer prone' imo.
Yeah, that sort of feed, esp in only one meal per day would make her the 'type' to be ulcer prone. If you can't feed more than once daily, I'd avoid grain & sweets & stick to very small feeds.

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i was thinking of switching her over to eating alfalfa cubes, is that a good option ? how much do you usually start with ? she also eating a pelleted hoof supplement and a powdered joint supplement that i would have to figure out how to get her to eat.
Firstly, what are you feeding/wanting to feed her for? Is she under weight? Needing more energy? Lacking nutrition? As it depends why as to what may be best, can't answer first above. But alfalfa is high in energy & low in sugar, so can be a good ingredient for putting weight on horses. It's also quite high in calcium, protein & other nutrients, so that needs to be taken into consideration re balancing nutrition too. If you're wanting a balanced ration, alfalfa should probably be mixed with other stuff. Depends what's in her hay/grazing & the 'hoof supp' as to what she may need elsewhere.

I'd start/change any feed gradually, such as a double handful(1lb?) per day for a few days, gradually increasing over a week or 2 to whatever amount you feel is right for her. IME if you have a small amount of powdered supp mixed well in alfalfa, rice bran, etc, then it generally isn't a prob going down. If your 'joint supp' is MSM, it shouldn't have a flavour anyway.
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post #28 of 42 Old 04-08-2013, 09:53 AM
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thanks for your input !
joint supp is not MSN.

her work load is fairly high, 1-2hr rides 6-7 days a week including jumping. the reason i want to take her off grain and switch to something else [read alfalfa cubes] is because she eats 2lbs of strategy and hay all day until it runs out and she is slim.i would not say she is under weight, shes between a 4.5 and 5 body score which is fine, i just dont want her to lose any weight. only time will tell if we have any grass this year, we really didnt last year.

also are alfalfa cubes and alfalfa pellets considered equal or are cubes better ?

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post #29 of 42 Old 04-08-2013, 10:45 AM
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get NO molasses, beet pulp soak it a bit and use that to mix in your powdered supplements.
I feed mine about 2 quarts of Legends performance textured, a day. If nothing else so I dont have manure to pick up. The grains in the feed pass through and the chickens scatter poo everywhere. Summer I cut it back on horses not in training to about half that.
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thanks for your input !
joint supp is not MSN.

her work load is fairly high, 1-2hr rides 6-7 days a week including jumping. the reason i want to take her off grain and switch to something else [read alfalfa cubes] is because she eats 2lbs of strategy and hay all day until it runs out and she is slim.i would not say she is under weight, shes between a 4.5 and 5 body score which is fine, i just dont want her to lose any weight. only time will tell if we have any grass this year, we really didnt last year.

also are alfalfa cubes and alfalfa pellets considered equal or are cubes better ?
First of all I would make sure she doesn't run out of hay. A slowfeeder of some kind would do that. Then I'd look into a general vit/ min supplement or, better even, s ration balancer. If there's a slim chance only for grass I'd get flaxseed, a cup a day. Gives much needed omegas when no green grass is available. Alfalfa pellets soak easier than cubes, so I'd add these. If still more energy is needed, ricebran, and even a handful of oats.
I found slowfeeder and ration balancer do wonders already.
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