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  • Alfalfa to go to 35 dollars a bale????
  • Alfalfa is too expensive i'm.going to.sell my horses

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    10-20-2011, 12:41 AM
  #21
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Originally Posted by caseymyhorserocks    
Good luck with hay.. :( Here for about a 120 lb bale of grass its 19 dollars, 21 for alfalfa!! That's at the specificallly horse store, another place was 18 dollars for grass hay that im guessing is like 18% alfalfa, 120 lb bale...
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    10-20-2011, 09:39 AM
  #22
dee
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We thought we found a decent hay source, but it didn't work out. We made several trips trying to meet up with this yahoo, but he didn't show up. After about five tries, we finally were able to meet up with him. His "good Missouri hay" was nasty. The supposedly 1,000 4x5 bales were 400-500 3x4 bales, and I swear were at least two years old, and he wanted premium prices!

So - we are stuck with buying from the feed store.

One of our friends who got ripped off buying hay from out of state that never showed up finally found a hay guy that could get a truckload of hay to her. They hay is decent bermuda grass hay, but she is paying well over 300/ton for the hay, if you factor in delivery. If you consider that she already shelled out $3,500 (not counting delivery) for a load of hay that never showed up, the hay she got was even higher!
     
    10-22-2011, 01:51 AM
  #23
Weanling
Wow. I was ready to be shocked about the way everything has gone up in the 5 years since I've had horses before getting the two brats that I have in the yard now, but after seeing this thread I am just going to count my blessings.

I am getting good round bales, clean hay, 4x5 1000 for $20 a bale and decent, clean though not magnificent, square bales for $3 a bale. It's fescue and orchard grass mix. I'm going to keep my fingers crossed that everything levels out for everyone soon.
     
    10-22-2011, 02:09 AM
  #24
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That's insane. I am in the same area as you and feel very lucky to have "connections". I just bought 100 square bales from my uncle for $5/bale, and its decent hay. We also have access to pretty nice round bales for like $35/bale, which is AWESOME. Feeding only one horse makes it easier as well.

Problem is, pelleted feed has gone up. Purina has gone up about $3 every time I go into TSC. I'm not even going to get into alfalfa/timothy pellets and beet pulp :/
     
    10-22-2011, 04:52 PM
  #25
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Originally Posted by Eliz    
That's insane. I am in the same area as you and feel very lucky to have "connections". I just bought 100 square bales from my uncle for $5/bale, and its decent hay. We also have access to pretty nice round bales for like $35/bale, which is AWESOME. Feeding only one horse makes it easier as well.

Problem is, pelleted feed has gone up. Purina has gone up about $3 every time I go into TSC. I'm not even going to get into alfalfa/timothy pellets and beet pulp :/
Eliz - you are up near Tulsa, in NE Oklahoma. Your area has had a LOT more rain than mine...

Here in Central Oklahoma, we are in such an exceptional drought that some of our neighbors' water wells have gone dry - they are having to truck water in! (Fortunately, we don't seem to have that problem - must be tapped into a different aquifer)

Hay scams are rampant, and some of them are even legal. It is not illegal to advertise that you have horse quality hay for $100/bale. In reality, it's smallish round bales of right of way hay - full of trash and heaven knows what.

I hate to think what it's like in Texas, where the drought is even worse!

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    10-22-2011, 06:12 PM
  #26
Green Broke
I feel for you with rising prices, but American hay can be so cheap! I'm Australian and there was a time a few years back where we were paying $20+ for a bale of lucerne hay. "Meadow" hay was a couple of dollars cheaper generally, sometimes same price. Not sure on the weight, but it was maybe 40x40x100cm, not good at measuring. What are the standard sizes of American hay?

Last time I had a horse though prices were a little cheaper, but never below $10. I once met an American who had moved to Australia who couldn't get over how expensive feed was here. But I guess things change wherever you go, I'm in Denmark now and I am shocked at how much people pay for board here, and for just a small stable with no turn out, it's close to double what I pay for rent, bills and internet for myself. I was talking to a horse rider just the other day and I told her how I used to have horses in Australia, and feed them, rug them and care for them everyday, often going out twice a day, and she couldn't believe anyone would put that much time into a horse. Here it seems that all horse people, at least in the cities, pay for people to care for their horse for them, and just turn up to ride.

I know its like that in parts of Australia, like in the big cities, but I have never really known anyone who does that. Sort of ruins the whole idea of having a horse I think. But from what I read on this forum full care board seems more popular in America?

I hope your drought breaks - I know how horrible it can be.
     
    10-22-2011, 07:38 PM
  #27
dee
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I've never boarded a horse, so I can't say for sure how popular full care board is. I had a friend many years ago, before I got married, that had a QH that she boarded. Her parents paid for full board, but that girl rode her horse every day, so she still made sure that the horse was properly fed and cared for. Her QH was shown in open jumping - they did very well as I recall. I'm sure that for the kind of care that horse was given (show barn) they paid through the nose for it.
     
    10-23-2011, 12:20 AM
  #28
Yearling
I live in central Texas...
Costal square bale is about 15 bucks of trash comparedddd to 8 bucks last summer.
Alfalfa sqaurre 17
Round bales 150 and up.
Lakes are drying up to nothing, my town is buying water, so our water bill is about 200...I'm about to have to sell my horse because supposedly she needs a chiro saddle fitter or massuse or something and the **** horses eat better than we do. I won't even be ablee to sell her prrrobably, I may have to pay someone to get her. Horses just don't sell around here...
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    10-23-2011, 12:39 AM
  #29
Showing
Hmm, lets see. Last summer, we were giving about $115 per ton for super good quality alfalfa. Our last load of alfalfa was $315 per ton. Our normal hay supplier had to go up on his prices of grass hay earlier in the summer due to the drought, he doesn't even raise alfalfa anymore.

We were talking one day and he said he was spending about $500 per day...PER DAY to keep the generator going to the pumps on his irrigation system and still, the hay wasn't growing. He got one "okay" cutting of his grass hay about July and got a really dinky second cutting about a month ago. Don't get me wrong, it's still good hay, there just wasn't much of it. He managed about 65 bales on a spread that normally produces 200+ (big squares).
     
    10-23-2011, 01:13 PM
  #30
dee
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I hear you - we got some rain this month, but it's been so dang hot that nothing is growing - it's all gone dormant. We thought it might grow enough to get a skimpy cutting with the rain and the cooler weather we are having now, but nope.

We did plant some winter rye in our pasture - it's been nothing but bare ground from where we cut out a bunch of trees and brush, trying to clear all that crap out. We timed it right, and the rye is coming up beautifully. Sadly, there is not nearly enough yet for the horses.

We did turn them out yesterday for an hour or so - didn't want them out any longer than that because they aren't used to green grass - they've had to be on hay all summer. They munched on the rye for a few minutes, but then disappeard to the other side of the pond (we haven't seeded over there.) Went to see what the big attraction was - and found bermuda grass! It's growing in some of the areas that we cleared - it must have been dormant there for years. There isn't a lot of it, but there are a lot of tiny patches all over the place.

I think we are going to try a little fertilizer where the bermuda grass is and see if it will spread more. I'm so excited!
     

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