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    11-25-2011, 10:45 AM
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dee
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Question Has anyone heard of Equi-Pride?

Daughter had a horsey friend recommend it for my Dancer and a couple of daughter's hard keepers. Dancer isn't really a "hard keeper" per se, but getting her to gain her weight back has been a struggle.

This friend suggested that Dancer might have ulcers, and that this Equi-Pride stuff may be what she needs. Vet acknowledges that it's possible that Dancer has ulcers - but didn't really believe it to be the case since she shows no sign of pain at all.

He didn't think the Equi-Pride would hurt her, but he said he's really not familiar with it. He would like to see what results we get from it, if we decide to use it. (Great, our vet wants us to be guinea pigs?)

This stuff is pretty pricey, so before I "take the plunge," I thought I'd see if anyone else has tried it and what results they got.
     
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    11-25-2011, 10:55 AM
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Showing
Someone bought me a massive bucket of the stuff, and they wasted their money. Not only did my old gelding HATE the taste of it, I saw no significant improvement in his weight. Beet pulp will do the same thing without the high price tag, and the horses seem to like the taste just fine.
     
    11-25-2011, 11:01 AM
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dee
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Dancer currently gets all the hay she can eat (orchard grass/brome mix or bermuda, whichever we can get) and a locally milled feed called "Energizer," the equivalent of Strategy Healthy Edge, and Omega HorseShine. We'll start back adding in beet pulp now that winter is here.

The Equi-Pride is more expensive than the Omega HorseShine, and I didn't want to change anything up if I didn't need to. The only difference between the two that I could tell was the Pre and Pro Biotics in the Equi-Pride. Supposedly it's supposed to help with digestion (and thus ulcers) according to the "friend."

Thanks for the advise SR - if it didn't work well for you - I doubt it would work well for us, I fear...
     
    11-25-2011, 11:05 AM
  #4
Showing
You can always buy pre and probiotics separately for less, and add them to her feed if you think they'll help.

To be honest, I think we over supplement our animals nowadays. Most of them get what they need to be and stay healthy if their nutritional needs are met.
     
    11-25-2011, 11:20 AM
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dee
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I agree that we over supplement. I think daughter is running a bit scared right now, though. We just lost a youngster that we had really been stuggling with. It didn't matter what we fed him, he stayed painfully thin. The first vet we took him to said his liver enzymes were not looking good and that his potassium levels were way too high. He recommended that we take off of the alfalfa pellets we'd been feeding him and make sure he was fed nothing that had alfalfa in it.

We finally had the poor little guy on a feed program that seemed to be helping, then he went down one day and couldn't get up. No pain - no fever - good appetite - but his legs just wouldn't work. We had a new vet by then, and he came out and tried and tried to get the little guy to his feet.

We learned something very important that day - HYPP is very sneaky. A horse can have it with no obvious muscle tremors (vet called what Junior had "micro" tremors) but HYPP can cause the cells in the body to take up so much potassium that the cells can't absorb any nutrients - causing a horse to starve to death while eating his dang fool head off.

We had to put the little guy down - and his body was sent to OSU Vetrinary school, where they confirmed the vet's prelimanary diagnosis of HYPP. I had never heard of such a thing as HYPP causing a horse to starve to death - I just thought it caused seizures and/or muscle tremors! Sad thing is, the little guy's dam died with the same symptoms, and our first vet had no clue what was wrong with her, other than her blood work was nearly identical to Junior's.

Now daughter is scared that every rib she sees on the horses is HYPP in hiding and she want's to get them fat and sassy. She's ready to try anything but patience...
     
    11-25-2011, 02:07 PM
  #6
Showing
I'm sorry, Dee. HYPP is scary, and can be misdiagnosed. I don't really know a whole lot about it, as I've never owned any horses who are related to Impressive.

Since the US is going into winter, some horses are going to lose weight until their feed can be adjusted to make up for the energy they're expending to stay warm. I generally add beet pulp starting in October, so my horses keep their weight up during the seasonal changes.

There's no reason for your daughter to think ribs showing is another case of HYPP, but I understand that sometimes logic doesn't enter into it when you've lost a horse in such a devastating manner.
     
    11-25-2011, 04:39 PM
  #7
Foal
I've tried Equi Pride and wasn't impressed. For my hard keeper ranch bred mare, I put her on SmartFlex senior and even though she's not a "senior", it did wonders for her. In addition to joint support, it has probiotics, prebiotics and enzymes.
     
    11-25-2011, 05:00 PM
  #8
Showing
If you feed a Senior's feed, it has beet pulp, extra oils and the probiotics. Even feeding only 2lbs per day along with the hay, you will see a diff. In her coat. It can be fed up to 5lbs per feeding. Any horse that has stopped growing can have Senior's. I'm feeding and HYPP NH and he's always been symptom free but then I've watched the potassium. If your daughter's worried about HYPP, Senior's is safe to feed, in case. I researched this a lot before getting the horse.
     
    11-25-2011, 06:16 PM
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dee
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Saddlebag- Please check the ingredients in your Senior feed. Most of the ones I looked at were beet pulp and alfalfa based - which would make them higher in potassium than you would want for an NH horse.

We had no reason to suspect HYPP, both the colt we just lost (colt was actually three years old) and his dam were grades. We had no idea what there background was, but Impressive had to be in the background somewhere I guess. Being a grade is no protection or insurance against HYPP.

I'm going to try to talk daughter out of using the Equi-Pride. I like the supplement we are currently using since it's mostly just flax meal, psyllium and yeasts, and we've had good results from the Omega HorseShine. I'll look around for some pre/pro biotics and just add that rather than making a major feed change.
     
    11-25-2011, 06:31 PM
  #10
Weanling
Hey Dee,
If your horse has ulcers and a lot of them do, I use Smart pack smart digest ultra and it has worked WONDERS on my hard keeping TBs. My trainer says pretty much all Tbs have ulcers and you can't really get rid of them permanently, just treat them. I noticed right away that my girl was finally gaining weight. The smart digest ultra has a lot of good stuff in it like pro biotics, antacids and stuff that benefits the rear gut as well. I've h ad excellent results with it after feeling like I tried everything. These are literally HUNDREDS of people on the smart pack site with similar stories about hard keepers. I also put a scoop of Cool Calories in my guys feed. It works great too but before I started using something for the ulcers she wouldn't gain weight no matter how much she ate in fact she was getting skinnier grrrr but it's all good now :)
     

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