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post #11 of 19 Old 03-25-2011, 03:16 PM
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Crimsonsky - LOL on the pasture - ours is dwindling, QUICKLY! I highly doubt our 2ac is going to sustain 2 horses. :sigh: But at least they're here and hay is cheaper than board PLUS hay (and gas to get there).
that is nice for sure! if anything, i'd personally figure out how much each horse should be getting without taking any pasture into consideration. especially if the pasture isn't going to last (2ac with 2 horses may or may not last very long at all especially if there's no pasture rotation, etc.). then you know going forward how much you'll need and can budget accordingly. just my two cents. :)
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post #12 of 19 Old 03-26-2011, 02:07 PM
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My four have been on free choice hay and average about 26lbs per day eachOrleans Indiana where is that from Terre Haute, IN??

I have been called the NSC Nazi more then once ... I hate traditional feed methods of loading our horses up on grains and junk food :)
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My four have been on free choice hay and average about 26lbs per day eachOrleans Indiana where is that from Terre Haute, IN??
If I could find some round bales, I'd be more than happy to give free choice - but doing so with square bales is a bit difficult !!

I'm also a little ticked bc the Feed guy said the grain was 14% fortified and when I looked at the tag, it's only 12%.... Gonna have a chat with them!

I'm giving-
GRACIE: 3qts grain, twice daily and 1-2 flakes of hay, twice daily

CHILI: 1.5qts grain, twice daily and 1-2 flakes of hay, twice daily

'Soon as the first cutting is done, I'm getting a couple round bales and storing them - if I have to cut it up, so be it. I just don't wanna run out again!

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the % on the bag means very little without knowing how much they are getting weight wise

3 lbs of 12% is .36lbsof protien but doesn't tell us what else is in it
2 lbs of 14% is .28lbs of protien but still doesn't tell us anything else

there is MORE to a feed then protien I worry more about sugars and starches then protien. and if it is a locally milled feed I am betting that level is about 40% or high... it's gonna be some oats, corn maybe a bit of barely and molasses with a so so nutritional package added

I have been called the NSC Nazi more then once ... I hate traditional feed methods of loading our horses up on grains and junk food :)
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post #15 of 19 Old 03-27-2011, 11:50 AM
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Chele - I bought a fishing scale at Walmart for $5. I can hang it right where I store and mix my feeds (love having 7 horses with different nutritional needs, not!). I can put a scoop of feed in a plastic Walmart or grocery bag and hang it on the scale to see how much it weighs. I don't weigh it every time I feed (I know, bad horsey mom!) but I do weigh it regularly - especially when getting a new batch in.

The reason for weighing it is to be sure that the horse's nutritional needs are met - if a scoop of feed only weighs 3/4 of a pound and the feeding instructions on the bag call for 3 pounds per feeding, three scoops of feed isn't enough to meet their needs.

Does that make any sense? I haven't had enough coffee this morning, and it got COLD outside! Makes my brain go all foggy...

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Here's the breakdown for a 50 lb bag of feed.
PROTEIN 12%
FAT 5%
FIBER 7%
CALCIUM .75%
PHOSPHORUS .50%
SALT .60%
ZINC 100 PPM
COPPER 42 PPM
SELENIUM .4 PPM
VIT A 6.00 IU/LB

and just to be fully informed, here is a complete list of ingredients:
Grain Products, Plant protein products, processed by grain by-products, calcium carobate, salt, dicalcium phosphate, monocalcium phosphate, molasses products, vegetable oil, yeast culture, vitamin a acetate ingelatin, vitamin d3 supplement, vitamin 3 supplement, menadione dimethylpryimidinol bisultate, (Source of vitamin K activity), riboflavin supplement, niacin supplement, thianne mononitrate, sinc amino acid complex, cobalt glucocheptonate, calcium pantothenate, vitamin b12 supplement, choline chloride, folic acid, biotin, pyrdoxine hydrochloride, asorbic acid, manganese sulfat, zinc sulfate, calcium iodate, magnesium oxide, manganousoxide, ferrous sulfate, copper sulfate, zinc oxide selenium, yeast, natural and artificial (???) flavors, natrual mixed tocopherols, citric acid & rosemary extract

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Chele - I bought a fishing scale at Walmart for $5. I can hang it right where I store and mix my feeds (love having 7 horses with different nutritional needs, not!). I can put a scoop of feed in a plastic Walmart or grocery bag and hang it on the scale to see how much it weighs. I don't weigh it every time I feed (I know, bad horsey mom!) but I do weigh it regularly - especially when getting a new batch in.

The reason for weighing it is to be sure that the horse's nutritional needs are met - if a scoop of feed only weighs 3/4 of a pound and the feeding instructions on the bag call for 3 pounds per feeding, three scoops of feed isn't enough to meet their needs.

Does that make any sense? I haven't had enough coffee this morning, and it got COLD outside! Makes my brain go all foggy...
It makes sense. The bag of feed I have calls for 4 1/2 lbs - 10 lbs PER DAY, PER HORSE!!! I thought that was a bit, much... They are getting about 1 1/2 gallons of feed per day. Well, Gracie is. Chili gets a li'l less but that's just bc she's a fatty and I'm trying to make sure she doesn't get any fatter!

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I tend to give small amounts of grain as just a snack, and keep them on just free choice Roundbales. I also keep free choice selenium blocks out as well. I believe since switching to this for the winter the horses look much healthier, and from what I know its much better for them to have free choice like that.
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look at your ingredient list and tell what your horse is really eating??

what grain product? What grain by product?

Being in Indiana you should be able to get about any brand of feed you want.. I personally have had great luck with Kent's Topline32 and hay pellets average cost is about 60 cents per day per horse.. and it's alot lower sugars and starches and the ingredients are listed on the tag not "products"

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