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    10-14-2011, 02:24 PM
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...But in lines of weight corn does considerably more than oats was my point. I have from time to time used corn for a few weeks to get weight on. Of course you do not have to use corn, complete feed or any other kind of feed. I simply stated what the five Thoroughbreds here eat or what I've done to get some of the rescues to gain.
Would want something without soy if I were to use a complete feed.....
     
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    10-14-2011, 02:33 PM
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Blue Seal's Demand put weight on my mare when she needed it. Also, depending on how much exercise he gets, his feed may need to be adjusted to the amount of calories he's burning.
Lovey? Must be a Standardbred thing
     
    10-14-2011, 02:50 PM
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Lovey? Must be a Standardbred thing
very much. They're athletes
     
    10-14-2011, 03:14 PM
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very much. They're athletes
yes they are!
     
    10-15-2011, 10:25 PM
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Hi, oats are way lower in starch & far easier to digest than corn. Neither are high in fat. If I were to feed grain, I'd choose oats over corn. But grain would not be my preferred option for putting weight on anyway, particularly if it couldn't be fed over at least 3 small meals daily. If you need to feed more for condition, I'd consider more lucerne &/or beet pulp and addition of some oilseed or *a little* oil. *It's very important to build up amount of oil very gradually. If I were going to feed a 'complete' type feed, I'd choose a low sugar/starch, non-pelleted one, or ensure it was fed with a fair bit of roughage, to encourage chewing.
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    10-15-2011, 11:15 PM
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Hi, oats are way lower in starch & far easier to digest than corn. Neither are high in fat. If I were to feed grain, I'd choose oats over corn. But grain would not be my preferred option for putting weight on anyway, particularly if it couldn't be fed over at least 3 small meals daily. If you need to feed more for condition, I'd consider more lucerne &/or beet pulp and addition of some oilseed or *a little* oil. *It's very important to build up amount of oil very gradually. If I were going to feed a 'complete' type feed, I'd choose a low sugar/starch, non-pelleted one, or ensure it was fed with a fair bit of roughage, to encourage chewing.
What is lucerne? Should I maybe feed half oats and half corn?
     
    10-16-2011, 12:08 AM
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What is lucerne? Should I maybe feed half oats and half corn?
Lucerne is alfalfa. Got side tracked with the oats/grain comment... Frankly I'm not surprised your horse is such a 'hard keeper' considering how & what he's fed. He's not old, so age shouldn't have anything to do with it. I presume one of the 2 minis is a mule by your comments? Yes, sounds like too much hay for that many, particularly the minis. I imagine a lot of it is actually wasted.

I don't get why you would consider feeding half & half oats & corn because some suggested reducing/removing oats & one suggested corn?? It sounds like - and you have said - you have very little understanding about feeding horses, and as you've already noticed, listening to everyone's advice blindly is only more confusing. Therefore I'd respectfully suggest you do nothing(except for feeding a few or more times daily) until you do some research and learn about how it all works, so you can then consider the opinions you've been given by everyone in a more objective manner. The links I mentioned previously will help get you started.
     
    10-16-2011, 12:22 AM
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Lucerne is alfalfa. Got side tracked with the oats/grain comment... Frankly I'm not surprised your horse is such a 'hard keeper' considering how & what he's fed. He's not old, so age shouldn't have anything to do with it. I presume one of the 2 minis is a mule by your comments? Yes, sounds like too much hay for that many, particularly the minis. I imagine a lot of it is actually wasted.

I don't get why you would consider feeding half & half oats & corn because some suggested reducing/removing oats & one suggested corn?? It sounds like - and you have said - you have very little understanding about feeding horses, and as you've already noticed, listening to everyone's advice blindly is only more confusing. Therefore I'd respectfully suggest you do nothing(except for feeding a few or more times daily) until you do some research and learn about how it all works, so you can then consider the opinions you've been given by everyone in a more objective manner. The links I mentioned previously will help get you started.
I am just extremely confused.
     
    10-17-2011, 05:58 PM
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Lucerne is alfalfa.
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What is lucerne? Should I maybe feed half oats half corn?
Lucerne is also clover- but mainly when someone says its lucerne hay its alfalfa . I wouldnt reccomend feeding corn- period. They are so high in starch- and even a little bit can off balance the horse's delicate system.. I forgot the whole article I read in a good horse nutrition book.. But it said a lot of stuff- not good stuff either- about corn. I wouldnt reccomend feeding oats either (i mean I like oats- but they don't help to much with gaining weight)- they don't help a lot with weight. I would reccomend Cool Calories 100- I love it! It smells like bubblegum. I was really temped to try it but decided against it . Or you can try Rice Bran (stabilized is best). I feed my slightly hard keeper in winter beet pulp and stablized rice bran (natural glo) and joint supplement. I would reccomend feeding rice bran and beet pulp or cool calories 100. Stablized means it is preserved. I was reading in the same book as mentioned above, that unstablized starts loosing nutrition content in as little as 48 hours. Its not spoiling, it just starts loosing the quality that helps put on weight and vitys and such.. Good luck
     
    10-17-2011, 06:44 PM
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The meal is far too large for one sitting, so spreading it out is good. Beyond that I would make sure that he is up to date on dental, dewormer, and vet checkups. After that I would research everything you have him on and find out if it is necessary. Make sure that there is nothing in there that was used to treat something in the past and is no longer needed. If the grass is no good then keep constant source of hay for him. If the minis are pigs and you need to regulate how much they eat you may need to separate them. Also a constant source of fresh water. The hay is very dry and they will need to drink more with the hay rather than the fresh grass. Also check his poop is there lots of undigested food, is it loose? It should be balls of poop not a cow pie, if the balls splat when they hit the ground they are still too loose.
     

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