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post #1 of 9 Old 09-14-2013, 02:52 AM Thread Starter
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herbal dewormers

Hi everyone, I am looking for a good herbal dewormer for my horse. Now before anyone jumps at me, I am willing to use standard deworming drugs...if my horse needs it. My mare is relatively low risk for parasites (shares 3/4 acre with one other horse and the pasture is meticulously cleaned 2x per day) so I don't feel she needs the old standard of deworming every 2 months. I would like to give her something more natural that can be fed regularly to keep her guts uninviting to parasites.

I have used Molly's Herbals before, but I never had a fecal egg count done, so I don't know how well it worked. My horse never appeared wormy in the year she was on it, so it obviously helped. Has anyone had experience with other products, or homemade recipes?

Also, does psyllium have any affect on intestinal parasites? What about a probiotic/digestive supplement?

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post #2 of 9 Old 09-14-2013, 03:09 AM
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I would worm count and then decide on what to use. You don't have to worm with chemicals every two months if your worm count.
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Yeah...I'm thinking of getting the horses checked, putting them on the herbals, and checking again in a few months. I've tried doing the egg count myself but I didn't feel confident in my assessments...maybe the vet clinic will give us a discount. :P
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Yeah...I'm thinking of getting the horses checked, putting them on the herbals, and checking again in a few months. I've tried doing the egg count myself but I didn't feel confident in my assessments...maybe the vet clinic will give us a discount. :P
The service we get out here (UK) by egg count companies is incredible, results are usually emailed back within 48hrs.

With regards to herbal wormers...I really don't believe they kill worms (not read any evidence that they do), but a well balanced diet will go a long way to a healthy horse who is more resistant to worm damage. I would use chemical wormers but only when needed.
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Right, from what I've read, the herbals don't kill the worms, they sort of scare them away. Like, make the horse's body an unappealing place to be.
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the old standard 2 months is just that, an old out dated discredited standard.
Leave the herbals on the shelf and get a fecal count with that money, then worm based on that with an appropriate, peer reviewed , clinically tested wormer.
Modern standards are for at most twice a day. Low dose daily's are only good at creating resistant worms.
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Modern standards are for at most twice a day. Low dose daily's are only good at creating resistant worms.
Did you mean twice a year?

My understanding with the herbals is that, because they do not kill the worms, they do not create resistance.
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Yeah...I'm thinking of getting the horses checked, putting them on the herbals, and checking again in a few months. I've tried doing the egg count myself but I didn't feel confident in my assessments...maybe the vet clinic will give us a discount. :P
If you go with the herbal have a fecal done often.

I know people who had a rare fecal done which came back clean and all the time the horse was packed with worms. Guess how it comes back depends on whether the worms are laying that day.

I've known people who had goats on herbal wormers and they would say they are fine they don't look wormy. Then they'd call me in a panic because goats were dying....guess from what. Worms.

Just DO it and be happy that you can!
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post #9 of 9 Old 09-19-2013, 12:36 PM
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I wouldn't bother with the herbal stuff. Deworm twice a year (at least one of those with the "good stuff" that kills tapeworms) and do a FEC halfway between the dewormings to see if more is needed.
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