Originally Posted by jumpermom
Thanks for the info, I'm not sure how the "quote" thingy works, so please bare with me
1. Her teeth was just done today and vet thought maybe it could be some of her problem - they were severe but needed.
2. Her tongue - no idea - will have to ask some people, vet, trainer, barn ppl. About that one.
3. I thought she was always that way, maybe more nervous or spooker before - but I was newer to this then and now a lot more comfortable with the horses. So not really sure on the answer to that.
3.1 I don't understand "metabolic issues" - sorry - she is 9 yrs old Would that be a blood work thing?
Lol you are doing just fine without the quote thing
Great that her teeth have been looked at. Someone with a lot of experience looking a horse's mouth should be able to help with the thick tongue or low pallette. Experienced farriers generally know what they're looking at, believe it or not
My friend got the shock of her life when she looked in her long 3 yr old's mouth and saw his tongue had been nearly severed by the "trainer" the Seller had sent him to. The Seller had no idea either but my friend's also a lifelong rider and just knew something in that young horse's mouth wasn't right. She ended up calling the Myler Bit company, who spent over an hour on the phone with her, getting details. $80 later on her credit card, she had a bit on the way that would work for his very scarred tongue.
He also is one of those rare horses who had FOUR wolf teeth come in
Her vet took them out, even though they weren't causing problems. He said with tongue the way it was, he didn't want them to maybe decay in later years and surgery would be a lot worse, plus having that tongue to deal with as he gets older. Four wolf teeth is not a common thing - it could only happen to my friend
Sometimes mares can develop insulin resistance if they produce a lot of foals. IR is essentially Type II diabetes in a human. It never goes away but, as in humans can be managed in a horse. One of the signs of high insulin levels in a horse is anxiety or a higher level of anxiety than the horse used to have.
This link talks about what a mare goes thru "after the stallion walks away". Like us humans, mares-in-foal are saints
It doesn't specifically talk about insulin resistance, but it will help to understand what changes the mare's body goes thru and how IR could develop if it's in the mare's gene pool. Eating for Two
If you can't afford to have the vet do blood tests to check her insulin level or the vet thinks that is just plain stupid (you'd be surprised at the vets that do), you can always put her on Magnesium Oxide.
Formula 707 makes a Calmer that does work. I let my regular mag ox/chromium order run out because I didn't think it did anything for my two metabolic geldings. Boy was that dumb. Both their anxiety levels went up just a tch --- nothing that anyone else would notice but I sure did - lol
Anyway, I bought the Formula 707 Calmer at the local Equine Pharmacy and I have been feeding each of them 1/4 dose twice daily and it is working.
At least with the Magnesium (there's also tryptophan in this Calmer) you would be addressing the anxiety whether it's brought on by mare hormonal issues or insulin issues.
Magnesium is good for reducing muscle stress/tightness too. Formula 707 Equine Health Products | Nutritional Supplements for Horses
If you do buy this Calmer, I would start out with a smaller dose and work my way up to the full dose. You may not need a full dose and would just be wasting your money orrrrrr you may have a horse that needs a double dose and I really would be asking the vet to do blood work, if that's the case